Well said. I might add that most likely TB'ers never learned any other program either before or after doing TM. I suspect because once someone has learned something else TM doesn't look so good. Vaj definitely has a background with the Swami Rama group. When I visited Ammachi's ashram in Kerala folks were learning Sanskrit, Ayurveda and a number of other things probably considered a bit too esoteric to be taught in the TM movement (though maybe taught watered down). I've known people hot on TM then decided to go try a "weekend intensive" from the Muktananda camp and I never heard anything about TM from them after that. TM is "yoga lite" or a system for the masses. The interesting thing is that meditation for the masses across other camps is pretty much the same and differs from TM and more the way MMY originally taught.
On 05/27/2011 10:54 AM, Duveyoung wrote: > What the fucking hell does anyone here care about the credentials about > anyone else? It's the same damned deal as being a birther. Does anyone -- > ANYONE -- think the Turq understands philosophy anywhere as deeply as Vaj? -- > yet Turq taught TM for sure. Turq's credentials turn out to be merely "an > expired license to spread TM" -- not "Professor Emeritus Retired." > > Vaj has gone toe to toe toe with just about everyone here and has held his > own consistently and courageously, and he wields logic like a scalpel. > There's not a spiritual topic he doesn't have considerable wherewithal to > address. Again and again he's been cogent and often speaking about far more > subtle levels of consciousness than TM ever delineated. > > Anyone, by googling, can self-educate and become as knowing of the details as > I was after nine months teacher training and thousands of hours in > Maharishi's presence. If he's faking anything, he's doing a better job of > knowing the TM POV than some TBers here, and when he counters the TM POV, > those whose depths are lesser resort to personal attacks, because they just > don't have the tee shirt to be in the discussion. > > When I left teacher training, I didn't know jack shit compared all the "other > ways to be spiritual" that I now know about -- no TM teacher was taught to be > a true scholar or even a true teacher of what they did know -- since they > were instructed how to avoid uncomfortable questioning and TO AVOID LEARNING > ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE OR ONE WOULD BE TOSSED OFF ALL COURSES AND ONE'S RIGHT TO > BE A TEACHER TAKEN AWAY. > > To question Vaj's right to be here in this den of failures, blind TBs, > braggarts, trolls, obvious psychopaths and sociopaths, wandering thinkers, > true hearts and fly-by-scoundrels is to be about as fascistic as one can get. > > Let the man talk. If you disagree with him, it's your moment to gather the > clarity to counter him such that both of you get a win/win. If you attempt > anything else other than mutual clarity, you're a bullying bastard. > > Vaj is exactly the person I wish was in the audience of the very first > lecture on TM I ever heard. Can you imagine how he would have made that > lecture a shambles of patchwork ideas that do not cohere around axioms > everyone accepts? > > In fact, anyone here could make mince-meat of the TM first lecture, and those > that "don't want to" are the most intellectually dishonest amongst this > pirate crew that's thinks it's okay to crash Rick's Party. > > Edg > > > --- In [email protected], nablusoss1008<no_reply@...> wrote: >> >> >> --- In [email protected], "whynotnow7"<whynotnow7@> wrote: >>> Nice try troll. Dude, Barry doesn't read my posts. Therefore I have no clue >>> who you are, or how you gained access to his email account. There is NO WAY >>> you are him - just some impostor troll. I DO have evidence though, not from >>> a database, but from a real member of the TMO who has access to such >>> things, and it is irrefutable. As I said before, Vaj has never learned, >>> practiced or taught TM. He also knows nothing about the TM Sidhis. >> >> Hardly surprising considering his level of "understanding" regarding how TM >> works. He has even disclosed he has no idea of how to use the mantra. >> > >
