--- In [email protected], "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > on 8/5/05 4:32 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > >> on 8/5/05 10:10 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> My dirty little secret is that, for me, it's MORE than "brief
> > >>> moments": I wish I had the capacity to "believe" as TM Acolytes do
> > >>> all the time, and unthinkingly be devoted to the craziness of the
> > >>> TMO.  LIfe would be a hell of alot easier.
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Would it? I don't see too many of them living easy lives.
> > > 
> > > Are they happy?
> > 
> > Too general a question. Some surely are. Others sure don't look that 
> > way.
> 
> And some are really worried, because the have been older and have 
> difficulties to make money, because they have spend all these years in 
> the Movement. They do not owe anything, has a lot of debts, and are 
> looking into a very poor future economically.

And, in other organizations I know of where this same True Believer
phenomenon exists (I don't know enough long-term TB TMers to say 
if it's present in them or not), there is an even more shocking trend.

I know quite a few people who have been "sold out" to their spiritual
organization for decades, and now find themselves in the exact 
economic situation you describe.  The shocker is that many of them
are actually hoping for "death before disillusionment."

It's sadly true.  I've heard guys and gals in their 50s talking about
death as if it were imminent, and *preferable* to having to deal 
with retirement without a pot to piss in.  






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