--- In [email protected], "richardjwilliamstexas"
<willytex@...> wrote:
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> > > So my thesis is that subjective experience *in itself*
> > > is a selfish act that is of no use to anyone else in
> > > the world...
> > >
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> So, we can believe something is true based on what we see
> and what we experience. We also believe something is true
> based on what we infer, and we believe something is true
> based on the verbal testimony of others.
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> So, what Turq just wrote is basically his belief and he
> believes that it is true. But, to deny personal experience
> is a little more than bizarre! So, where do you think the
> Turq gets these beliefs, if not from others or from books
> he read? How would Turq know that a subjective experience
> is of no value to any one else? Does Turq believe that he
> has knowledge that is superior to sense experience?
>
Well all interesting questions - may be Turq will answer? I should
clarify when he uses the term "subjective experiences" he is referring
to claims of enlightenment and spiritual experiences. I agreed there's
no value in them since I don't believe enlightenment is a thing of
utility like a car or a house and they don't need to add any value to
others.
> If, so it's another Turq flip-flop, since Turq recently
> proclaimed to be a non-believer in a transcendental
> experience. Go figure.
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