On 07/21/2011 02:42 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> ...who had never practiced TM, and was here checking out
> the scene and trying to figure out whether there was any
> benefit for you in learning it, would you be favorably
> impressed by the words and actions of those who act as
> self-appointed "TM defenders" or "TM supporters" here?

It would be an honest sampling (or boring).  It would show that TM is no 
panacea.  But neither is any other meditation technique.  That's why I 
thought if Stu knows Mike White he might want to steer him to FFL for 
some funny material for his HBO series.

TM is overpriced anyway and probably somewhat dubious in it's safety (I 
checked too many psychotics).   There's cheaper, safer and more 
effective techniques out there.  The only real thing TM had going for it 
in the early 70s (other than price) was it was more of an organization 
than the other more "hippie" run ones.

> One, a newbie, seems to be dedicated to creating in other
> people the least favorable opinion possible of a guy who
> did nothing more than be honest about his TM experience
> with a filmmaker. Another relative newb is on a campaign
> to "out" anyone who posts here, so that he can know who
> exactly they are and where they live; one can only wonder
> why he wants to know this, and what plans he has for the
> heretics once he has learned this information. Several
> others seem to be able to contribute little more than
> "piling on" to demonize the posters who don't toe the
> TM Party Line, and call them uplifting names like donkeys.

So someone is trying to fend off the "David Wants to Fly"?  I was 
wondering why it isn't on Netflix yet.  Honestly I ignore most of the 
threads here since they are boring.

> That's pretty much the "side" representing TM, and all
> that it has done for the TMers in question, who have now
> been practicing it for many years or decades.
>
> On the other "side," consider the simple post made by
> one of the people these "TM supporters" have been trying
> to demonize lately. Mark Landau made an honest and forth-
> right post, containing no antagonism and stooping to
> no name-calling, expressing more positive sentiments
> about Maharishi than all of the folks I mention above
> have made in all of their cumulative posts to FFL.
>
> If I were a lurker, I'd be looking at "What you focus
> on you become." It seems to me that on the whole those
> who have appointed themselves as "TM defenders" can't
> seem to do anything but "defend." They seem incapable
> of saying anything positive about that which they are
> defending, only negative things about those who they
> feel are "against" it. Meanwhile, one of the people
> they are trying diligently to demonize *was* able to
> post positive things about Maharishi and TM. Go figure.

"What you focus on you become" is not always true and taken WAY out of 
context.  It's about meditation and focusing on the transcendent 
(regardless of what technique you use).  If you focus on work the rest 
of the day you don't become the work.  Pure consciousness trumps any 
relative world concerns.  But that doesn't mean that folks here focusing 
on a global crisis are becoming it.  No, they are able to examine at 
arm's length and show what is actually wrong with the situation with 
little stress.

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