--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau <m@...> wrote:
>
> Is there anyone here who spent long and equal time with 
> M and Rama?  

Besides me, you mean. 14 years each.

> I have one friend who felt that Rama's darshan blew M's away.  

I would have to agree. 

> But she didn't spend nearly as much time with M as with R.  
> And, of course, two others who "saw" him fly and disappear.  

You can find thousands of people who saw that.

> Of course we know how he spiraled out of here.  

Sad. The guy had so much potential, and pissed it away.

> And, of course, that's another thing we loved so much about 
> being with M, how much and how warmly he and we all laughed 
> together.

In the early years. I left when laughter started 
to be actually frowned upon.

> On Jul 27, 2011, at 6:10 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> 
> > What is the sound that causes the most disparate reactions in people?
> > Some can hear this sound and react with fury in the moment of hearing
> > it, and seemingly hold on to that fury for years, basing whole vendettas
> > on it. Others can hear the same sound and join in, as if adding harmony
> > to an already-sweet song. To the former, this sound closes the door on
> > any possible future communication or resonance with the person or
> > persons who laughed at them forever; it is perceived as an affront that
> > can never be forgiven, an offense that should and must be punished. To
> > the latter, the same sound actually *opens* doors to enhanced
> > communication and increased resonance; it is perceived as an invitation
> > to expand one's awareness, both of self and of the world.
> > 
> > The sound in question is laughter. In particular, the sound of other
> > people laughing at you.
> > 
> > I've heard this sound a lot, because I studied with a spiritual teacher
> > who used it as almost a mahavakya to facilitate breakthroughs to higher
> > states of attention. Rama would poke merciless fun at us, his students,
> > often in front of an audience of hundreds of other students.
> > 
> > Whatever else he might have been, Rama was a natural comedian, as fast
> > on his feet as Robin Williams; he could find something funny in almost
> > any situation. He specialized in "finding the funny" in situations that
> > almost everyone around him treated with deadly seriousness. One of the
> > things that almost every spiritual aspirant takes seriously is their
> > self -- its stories, its importance, and above all its very seriousness.
> > This 'tude is seemingly endemic to the spiritual seeker, and often to
> > the spiritual path itself, as reflected by the very language that path
> > uses. A "good" student is described as a "serious" student; a "proper"
> > attitude to the study itself is described as "taking it seriously."
> > 
> > Color me not convinced of this. I'm with Christian philosopher G.K.
> > Chesterton, who said, "Seriousness is not a virtue." Not only do I agree
> > with him that there is no virtue in seriousness, I have come to believe
> > that seriousness is the very antithesis of spiritual practice. I believe
> > this because the few human beings I have encountered on this planet whom
> > I would suspect of being enlightened or close to it were funny as hell;
> > they could find a joke in *anything*. Including themselves.
> > 
> > Rama felt similarly. What was best about him is that he wisely included
> > himself in the list of "viable targets for humor." He was remarkably
> > self-effacing, and made himself the butt of his own jokes as often as he
> > did us. In my 14-odd (very odd) years with him, I shared the limelight
> > with him many times, and became the butt of many of his jokes.
> > 
> > Some of them roasted me mercilessly, and resulted in many of my fellow
> > students joining in the laughter. This presented me with a koan: "What
> > is the sound of one person not laughing, in a room full of laughing
> > people?" Fortunately, in almost every case I decided that the answer to
> > that koan was "An absolute boob who has started to take himself FAR too
> > seriously," lightened the fuck up, and joined in the laughter.
> > 
> > I rank doing so right up there with my highest satori experiences in
> > this life. Without exception, every time I managed to break through the
> > self importance of seriousness, I found my self dwindling to the tiny,
> > mischevious, and genuinely laughable imp it really was, and being
> > replaced by Self. There is IMO very little in life as liberating as
> > being able to laugh at oneself, and one's self.
> > 
> > IMO, the proper "soundtrack" of the movie or soap opera that is the
> > pathway to enlightenment is laughter. If your path doesn't have a "laugh
> > track," you might want to consider grabbing the remote and changing the
> > channel.
> > 
> > The sound of laughter -- especially when people are laughing at you --
> > is a double-edged sword. It presents you with a koan. You can choose to
> > reply to that koan with outrage and anger, or you can choose to lighten
> > the fuck up and join in the laughter. Or, even better, take the joke
> > that you are the butt of and riff on it, not only joining in with the
> > laughter but "piling on" and provoking an even bigger laugh.
> > 
> > I've been reminded of such an occasion recently on the Rama-oriented
> > forum I've mentioned recently. One woman recapitulated one of her
> > all-time highest experiences with the dude. It was at one of our formal
> > dinners -- the guys all wearing tuxedos, the women in evening dresses; I
> > think we were having dinner at the Pierre in NYC. At any rate, that
> > night she was feeling "off," having sunk into a period of taking herself
> > and the study far too seriously. Rama, himself dressed in a tux, walked
> > up to the table at which she was sitting with about ten other students,
> > and "made the rounds," making some comment about each of their states of
> > attention that night, from his point of view. He got to her, stopped,
> > and said, "You are awfully serious lately. You should masturbate more."
> > 
> > She replied immediately and instinctively, "More?"
> > 
> > Everyone cracked up, including him. She had a major satori experience,
> > and wound up residing in enlightened states of mind for some weeks
> > afterwards. Go figure.
> > 
> >
>


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