Jane Fonda was on Charlie Rose last night and she was talking about studies that show how people in their fifties are happier than those younger, because at 50+, they have been through all of the ups and downs of life. She said when we are younger, all of that future knowing stretches out before us, and is exciting but also a source of anxiety. Now we understand how the world works, so we can continue to operate within it in a more enjoyable way.
--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...> wrote: > > The greatest decade yet man! Thanks for the response. > > --- In [email protected], "martyboi" <martyboi@> wrote: > > > > > > Apparently we are in a similar place...sounds like my resume. I am 55, > > initiated at 17. Did sidhis, lived on Staff at Cobb, hung out with Sri Sri > > and some Yogananda people. > > > > I always kept an emotional distance from the movement due to homophobia > > (theirs and mine) and which I now see as a great blessing. For me AOL was a > > more "mature" and humane version of the movement...however, movements are > > more alike than they are different - and the pressure for social conformity > > is ruinous. > > > > I think just as a young man moves out of his parent's house to strike out > > on his own, a mature man has to leave behind the safety of the belief > > systems he adopted as a kid to find his place in the world. Perhaps this is > > the project for all men in our decade. > > > > Indeed the fifties are a great decade of life...I just wish my joints > > didn't hurt when I get out of bed! > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the answers. > > > > > > > > > This is a false polarity: > > > > > > > > > <I dunno Curtis, just because you bought the whole stinkin' enchilada for > > > many > > > years doesn't mean the opposite of everything you learned in the movement > > > is the > > > truth...dive for the pearls...they are there.> > > > > > > This is not the intellectual dynamic at play in my questions. I am a > > > meditator. TM is my pearl from that era. I am just questioning the > > > beliefs that surround the experience. The years I bought the whole ... > > > were between 16 and 31. It doesn't surprise me that I have reconsidered > > > the beliefs I held in that period in my 5th decade of life experience and > > > study. I am progressing in understanding, not just polarizing against > > > what I believed as a young man. Now I have more years out than I was in. > > > These are the formative experiences that are important to me now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "martyboi" <martyboi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Answers interleaved: > > > > > > > > > This may be your own construction. Do you feel the same thing about > > > > > voodoo ceremonies? How about about a rasta smoke-in? A religious > > > > > ritual involving killing a goat? A human? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes it might be my own construction - but its equally possible it is > > > > not. > > > > Never been to a voodoo ceremony. Seems creepy. > > > > Been to many smoke-ins...love Rastafarians. > > > > Don't think I like killing so much. Though I've eaten goat...very tasty > > > > after a smoke-in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When our subconscious expectations are matched in the environment, > > > > > our brains reward us. We get flooded with the expected good > > > > > feelings. We have historically been shown to suck at evaluating such > > > > > groups outside us. You are judging what is outside by a feeling > > > > > inside. It implies only simultaneity, not causality. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes...Actually I don't spend much of my time evaluating people or > > > > groups..I'm not looking for grace it just sorta randomly shows up. > > > > Can't explain it...and certainly don't need to justify or prove it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is what I propose: we get a curtain and you sit facing away > > > > > from it. Across the curtain we bring in a succession of followers of > > > > > Sebud, Thug hash smokers from Northern India (the original assassins) > > > > > and a variety of new age groups along with a group of guys who used > > > > > to cut up bodies for the mob. > > > > > > > > > > Without the visual clues, can you accurately tell what field effect > > > > > they are emanating? > > > > > > > > > > (I can get the Mafia guys and thugs, I need help gathering up the > > > > > rest.) > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't choose when and where or how I get vibes from people or > > > > situations... It's just something that randomly happens. > > > > > > > > I dunno Curtis, just because you bought the whole stinkin' enchilada > > > > for many years doesn't mean the opposite of everything you learned in > > > > the movement is the truth...dive for the pearls...they are there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do believe that individuals and groups of individuals can be > > > > > > conduits for grace to flow into this world...Each member of the > > > > > > group "tugging" each member along in a symbiotic manner. > > > > > > > > > > > > What I don't believe is that the manner in which that grace > > > > > > expresses itself in the world is predictable with respect to > > > > > > individuals: as we know, "God is no respecter of persons." (Acts > > > > > > 10:34) > > > > > > > > > > > > Grace influences our thoughts, behaviors and choices in the world > > > > > > and moves situations towards positive outcomes. But - it's only > > > > > > through action and behavior that it (grace)becomes meaningful. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure that sitting and radiating grace is great. But, Krishna > > > > > > told Arjuna to act for a reason...Action is the bridge through > > > > > > which that grace becomes manifest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
