--My understanding from Maharishi's teaching is that CC is 
enlightenment, because in CC one has transcended the ego, and is 
acting from the level of pure consciousness, in CC.

GC or God-Consciousness is developed through advanced techniques, 
and the TM-Siddhis, in that you become aware and experienced with 
the finest state or impulse of being. That is where God manifests at 
the finest level, the finest intention is where manifestation arises.

Then you begin to see the remarkable quality of creation, and 
realize the perfection and the beauty of the creation, which is 
based in love and creativity, and extention of one's self.

After this, one naturally begins to cognize beyond the finest 
relative, and realizes that pure-consciousness is all that there is; 
Brahman is all that there is; I am that, thou art that, everything 
is that. UC and Brahman is the same thing.

He has said, that it is beneficial for the Master to verify the 
experience of UC, in that it can be disorienting at first, to be One 
with everything.



- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" 
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> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" 
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> > wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB 
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> > > wrote:
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "feste37" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > I wish the Christians would stop saying that their way 
is 
> > > > > > better than anyone else's. It gets very boring, and it 
is 
> > > > > > untrue. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > And it drowns out the TMers saying the same thing.  :-)
> > > > 
> > > > Although, of course, what TMers say is *about* their
> > > > path, whereas what the Christians say *is* their path.
> > > 
> > > Excellent distinction. And many Christians believe that the 
only 
> > > way to become one with God is to die physically. yow!
> > 
> > Well, no, you can never become one with God, in
> > Christian belief.  Jesus was the one and only who
> > ever was one with God, but he was God to begin with.
> > 
> > > Of course the main shortcoming with TM's teachings is that you 
> can 
> > > wallow in the seven states of conciousness forever without 
> gaining 
> > > enlightenment.
> > 
> > Five, six, and seven *are* enlightenment, according
> > to MMY.
> > 
> > > I don't know if that is an actual shortcoming, or just an 
example
> > > of the expression, 'you can lead a TMer to Brahman, but you 
can't 
> > > make him drink'. 
> > > 
> > > In other words, after Maherishi provides us the tools for 
> > > experiencing the other 4 states of conciousness (tc, cc, gc, 
uc), 
> > > how would he then tell us to go beyond them, to all inclusive 
> > > Brahman? Any ideas anyone?
> > 
> > In my understanding, he says GC and UC, and presumably
> > BC as well--and whatever there is after BC--develop
> > naturally once you've reached CC.
> 
> Thats NOT my understanding. CC is "normal." GC and the rest 
require 
> something more...




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