--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote: > > "Similarly, the potentially disruptive activities of millennial religious or > communal movements (which in Hagopian's framework are classed as "revolts") > also may develop in "revolutionary" or "non-revolutionary" directions, > depending upon their goals and on the context within which their protest > develops." > > "When do Millennial Religious Movements become Politically Revolutionary?" - > (Communal Studies Association vol 31,1 2011) > Lawrence Foster > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > "Before considering these important questions, a working definition of > > "polictical revolution" first is necessary. The definition of political > > revolution used in this article is drawn primarily from Crane Brinton's > > classic comparative study, Anatomy of Revolutions... > > > > Brinton argues that for such an overthrow or attempted overthrow to be > > considered "revolutionary" the leaders of the movement must also seek to > > initiate major changes in the structure of government (as opposed to simply > > who is running it), as well as in economic life, social relationships, and > > ideological or religious beliefs." > > > > "When do Millennial Religious Movements become Politically Revolutionary?" > > - Lawrence Foster > > > >
Well, and that said, then it's Revolutionary Maharishi Transcendental Meditation. Seems that Maharishi was one of the revolutionaries of the late 20th Century and of the early 21st Century. Certainly not the only one but one of them. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > > > Evidently it's true, that (Maharishi) > > > > > > "[Noyes] with (Transcendental Meditation) evidently ably utilized the > > > wide range of social and financial connections at his disposal to create > > > a millennial group that skillfully pursued its objectives with in > > > American society for more than three (five) decades." "... might appear > > > as extreme at first sight, the group is actually a remarkable example of > > > how a millennial group can successfully develop its own distinctive > > > identity, while avoiding destructive confrontation with larger society." > > > -"When do Millennial Religious Movements Become Revolutionary?:" - > > > Lawrence Foster > > > (Communal Studies Association vol 31,1 2011) > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > This is us? > > > > > > > > > > > > This is us? > > > > > > > > "Millennial religious and communal movements typically > > > > > > > > anticipate the > > > > imminent and literal end of what they view as a profoundly wicked, > > > > corrupt > > > > existing world order and its replacement by a glorious "new heaven and > > > > new > > > > earth," in which "the first shall be last and the last first, " > > > > Describing > > > > millennial groups this way implies that they must be inherently > > > > "revolutionary" > > > > in their underlying goals and their impact upon the larger social order > > > > that > > > > they criticize so harshly" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Describing millennial movements in this way implies that they must be > > > > inherently "revolutionary"... > > > > > ...This article will argue, instead, that the complex trajectories of > > > > millennial movements may lead them to two quite different directions > > > > -either > > > > toward increasing accommodation with the larger society, on the one > > > > hand, or > > > > toward escalating conflict and confrontation that typically results in > > > > the > > > > group's dispersal or violent suppression by political power holders, on > > > > the > > > > other." > > > > > > > > > > > > > -"When do Millennial Religious Movements Become Revolutionary?:" - > > > > Lawrence Foster > > > > (Communal Studies Association vol 31,1 2011) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Choose your millenarian end-of-days and descent of Heaven on Earth. > > > > > However, surveying the 60 years of Maharishi and TM in the West or > > > > > even just the 4 decades of TM in Iowa the TM movement as a > > > > > millenarian movement has tried everything and has both accommodated > > > > > the larger culture, been suppressed some, and even dispersed. And it > > > > > has changed the larger culture some too. Evidently was revolutionary > > > > > in its time too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yep. Well of course there is a whole spectrum. Some of us are > > > > > > > and some are not. Recently I saw Bevan and his people who are > > > > > > > around him at a meeting and also I've directly watched and heard > > > > > > > him speak within the year a couple of times, and yes they > > > > > > > evidently are millenarian. Millennial-ist. To the extent that > > > > > > > he and they have been the right hand of the TM movement all these > > > > > > > years and decades, then yes it is. Essentially the TM movement > > > > > > > and TM has been and is theirs now. Certainly TM as a movement is > > > > > > > communal at their level and millennial from the inside at that > > > > > > > level. If it walks like a duck and quacks like one, then... in > > > > > > > modern times, TM's a millenarian movement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dedicated millenarians -inspired by their intense emotional > > > > > > > > commitment to goals they view as cosmically important and by > > > > > > > > their "true believer" millenarian rhetoric- often seek to > > > > > > > > assist the divine process of transformation in which they > > > > > > > > believe they are participating by taking matters into their own > > > > > > > > hands rather than passively waiting for God to inaugurate His > > > > > > > > kingdom on earth. Initially, such movements may engage in > > > > > > > > relatively quiet and largely non-confrontational efforts to > > > > > > > > withdraw from what they view as the wicked world around them, > > > > > > > > in order to try to create purer, more communally cohesive > > > > > > > > groups in preparation for the anticipated millennial kingdom." > > > > > > > > - Lawrence Foster, Journal of the Communal Studies Association > > > > > > > > vol31:1,2011 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes > > > > > > > > > are we millennialists? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is us? > > > > > > > > > "Millennial religious and communal movements typically > > > > > > > > > anticipate the imminent and literal end of what they view as > > > > > > > > > a profoundly wicked, corrupt existing world order and its > > > > > > > > > replacement by a glorious "new heaven and new earth," in > > > > > > > > > which "the first shall be last and the last first, " > > > > > > > > > Describing millennial groups this way implies that they must > > > > > > > > > be inherently "revolutionary" in their underlying goals and > > > > > > > > > their impact upon the larger social order that they criticize > > > > > > > > > so harshly" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Describing millennial movements in this way implies that they must > > > > > > be inherently "revolutionary"... > > > > > > ...This article will argue, instead, that the complex trajectories > > > > > > of millennial movements may lead them to two quite different > > > > > > directions -either toward increasing accommodation with the larger > > > > > > society, on the one hand, or toward escalating conflict and > > > > > > confrontation that typically results in the group's dispersal or > > > > > > violent suppression by political power holders, on the other." > > > > > > > > > > > > Lawrence Foster , Journal of the Communal Studies Association > > > > > > v31-1, 2011 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" > > > > > > > > > > > <geezerfreak@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, oh......you just confirmed to Buck (and no doubt > > > > > > > > > > > > Tex) that >you're in on it too Rick. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rick, in meditator typology? Naw, i know Rick, he's one > > > > > > > > > > > of them progressive maoist meditators. Like Hagelin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As in: "...those who envision a gradually improving world > > > > > > > > > > > (progressive millennialists--Shakers, some Marxists, many > > > > > > > > > > > mainline Christian denominations, etc.). Your > > > > > > > > > > > perfectionists fall within progressive millennialism, in > > > > > > > > > > > this typology. <snip> > > > > > > > > > > > Viewed broadly, TM and Maoism share a few certain > > > > > > > > > > > characteristics as millennial movements. Of course, they > > > > > > > > > > > diverge widely in theory, methods, and understanding of > > > > > > > > > > > human nature. Maoism is significantly different on the > > > > > > > > > > > violence meter, as well, but shares the TM movement's > > > > > > > > > > > longing for (and expectation of) a perfect world." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In progressive millenial perfectionism to the end > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Adi Shankara, > > > > > > > > > > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
