--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > You are free, of course, to live your life any way > > > you want. However, I might suggest to you that by > > > taking this stance you are setting yourself up to > > > never realize enlightenment. Enlightenment (thus far) > > > is a *completely* subjective experience. No one you > > > have access to on the planet can "verify" or "validate" > > > the experience for you. So if/when it happens for you, > > > you've just said that you won't trust your own experience. > > > Talk about setting up a subtle level of intention to make > > > sure you never have to deal with the situation... > > > > So you're convinced its a situation with which I would have to deal? > > Eventually, absolutely. I am convinced that one of > the key elements involved in realization of one's own > enlightenment involves making that jump from trusting > others more than one trusts one's own perceptions to > trusting one's own perceptions more than one trusts > others. > > Others can comment if they'd like. One's mileage may, > of course, vary on this subject, but I'd suspect that > those here who have experienced awakenings would tend > to agree that a certain level of self-trust is neces- > sary for the realization to happen in the first place > and then to sustain itself. It'll be interesting to > see what people here think of this question.
I live for those wonderful "esoteric" experiences we have, which most often -- but not always -- occur during the period of meditation. However, these experiences are the one category of experiences in my life that I do NOT doubt. Pretty much everything that I experience in the relative, on the other hand, I do NOT have the same degree of self-trust. > > But since you're asking me, yes, I'm convinced that > self-trust is *critical* to realization of higher > states of consciousness. That doesn't mean that you > might not get a "second opinion" if you find one you > trust, but the bottom line is that your own experience > is telling you one thing and the "second opinion" is > telling you another, you're at a crossroads. At that > point you either step beyond the barrier of self doubt > and embrace your own realizations or you choose to > believe the "outside authority" and reject them. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
