--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > snip
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I've always felt that much of the craziness
> > > emanating from the TMO 
> > > over the past 25 years came about because the people
> > > around MMY 
> > > didn't reign him in when these ideas came out of his
> > > mouth.
> > > 
> > > I haven't been around MMY enough to know the
> > > dynamics of the 
> > > relationship he had with them -- so the following is
> > > just 
> > > speculation on my part -- but I suspect that in the
> > > days when Jarvis 
> > > and Lutes were around that they held him in check. 
> > > Nowadays, there 
> > > are cult nutcases around him who either encourage
> > > his every whim or 
> > > are too caught up in the
> > > Maharishi-is-possessed-of-papal-
> > > infallibility so that they never question him or
> > > hold him in check 
> > > when these ideas come up.
> > 
> > I agree with this and want to add even more. On my TTC
> > (LaAntilla, 1972) somebody got up and expressed
> > discomfort regarding bowing down to Guru Dev at the
> > end of the puja because they were Jewish. He was
> > sincerely asking MMY for an understanding that would
> > resolve this conflict. MMY's initial response was to
> > blow the guy off. He made jokes and even said that we
> > sin and violate our religion every day, what's one
> > more sin (!). But they guy would not accept any of
> > MMY's answers and would not budge, not out of
> > arrogance but out of complete sincerity and faith in
> > MMY's ability to answer this question. The guy started
> > to cry but wouldn't back off at all. It got really
> > intense with the guy crying and MMY just blowing him
> > off and laughing. All the lights even went off for
> > awhile. When it became clear that the guy was not
> > going to budge, at all, MMY suddenly shifted and said,
> > "Alright" and gave this amazing talk about Guru Dev,
> > bowing down, the puja and God. It was incredibly
> > powerful and resolved, for this guy, any conflict he
> > had. When MMY finished talking the guy asked if the
> > tape of their conversation could be played for every
> > TTC. MMY said, "No. When you dig for water and get
> > oil, you will not appreciate it and just through it
> > away." I wonder what would happen today if someone dug
> > for oil with MMY out of complete and total sincerity
> > and would not budge one inch until their conflict was
> > resolved? I think MMY is surrounded by water drillers
> > and he resonds in like.
> 
> 
> 
> Most of my bitterness towards the direction the TMO has taken over 
> the years is reserved for those around him.  Yes-men do no service 
> to a CEO in a corporation and their counterparts in the TMO do no 
> service to MMY.
> 

If someone only allows yes-men to stay around, then they get what 
they want.




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