--- In [email protected], "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> No is the correct answer, as far as I'm concerned.  But there
> are donors out there who I'm sure will swear on a stack of
> Gitas that this will be the safest, most secure investment of
> all time.  And then they'll conveniently forget when the bonds
> default.
> 
> What discount rate would you assign?


Whatever the net value of the TMO assets are and then the discount 
rate would be whatever that amount is as a percentage of the $600 
billion.  But that's assuming those assets will be in existence at 
the time the bonds come due which is when?  20 years?

Who knows what the net value of the TMO assets will be 
then...probably zero...so you're probably right: they're worthless.



> 
> --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "Cliff" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > Precisely zero, I believe is Peter's point.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Com'n...certainly we can assign SOME sort of discount factor to 
> > those bonds, no?
> > 
> > 50%?  10%?  Even 1%?
> > 
> > Well, maybe you've got a point.  At 1%, they'd be worth 
> > $6,000,000,000 and I'd be hard-pressed to imagine anyone paying 
even 
> > that much.
> > 
> > Assuming the colatteral for the bonds would be the worth of the 
TMO 
> > and assuming that to be about (and this is a complete guess) $1 
> > billion, then the discount factor for the bonds would be about 
> > 0.175%.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected], Peter 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > on 8/11/05 5:35 PM, Peter at
> > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Vedic bonds? I don't think so! No reputable or
> > > > > > > disreputable financial institution is going to
> > > > > > touch
> > > > > > > anything in the movement. They'll do their due
> > > > > > > diligence and very quickly conclude that the TMO
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > MMY are profoundly unstable and an exceedingly
> > > > > > high
> > > > > > > financial risk.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Reminds me of something I heard Benny Feldman say on
> > > > > > the KHOE radio station
> > > > > > here. He was pitching some sort of world peace
> > > > > > bonds, and saying that they
> > > > > > were a safe investment because they were backed by
> > > > > > the Raam.
> > > > > 
> > > > > That's hilarious! The TMO couldn't even issue junk
> > > > > bonds because their financial rating would be so
> > > > > low...low? It's not even on the chart!
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > So...TM bonds with a face value of $600,000,000,000 would 
yield 
> > how 
> > > > much on the open market?
> > > >





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