--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > <snip> > > > As Llundrub pointed out yesterday, there is no > > > acceptance of the perfection of the world as > > > it is, only a compulsion to remake the world > > > into the image of it his self dreams about. > > > And the closer he gets to dying, the more he > > > wants to make what a truly enlightened being > > > would have realized is already perfect "more > > > perfect," and the more money he needs to remake > > > this already-perfect world in his own image. > > > Strange, if you ask me... > > > > And as I responded to Llundrub yesterday: > > > > Maharishi was once asked why, if everything is > > perfect just as it is, TMers were working so > > hard to change things. > > > > MMY replied, "That too is perfect just as it is." > > And I'm certain that some people were as > impressed by this platitude at the time it > was originally spoken as you seem to be now. :-)
If you think it's a platitude, you don't get it. The real platitude is "Everything is perfect just as it is" WITHOUT the "That too..." part-- i.e., as you're using it. Either component by itself is a platitude. But put 'em together, and they cancel each other out. You're left with--poof!--nothing but the Here and Now. Oy! No wonder you don't want to look at it too closely. <snip> > And in my opinion, *that* was "perfect just > as it was," because the vast majority of his > students didn't really *want* any of these > things -- enlightenment, world peace, what- > ever -- in the Here And Now. They wanted to > believe in the remote possibility of them, > at some unspecified time in the future, while > basically staying the same and never messing > with the status quo of their lives. That's such utter bullshit. And of course it has nothing to do with the point I was making. <snip> > It's just the most fascinating phenomenon, > as if those who are still waiting for the > future believe that those who are no longer > waiting did something *offensive* by actually > finding and living what the waiters are still > waiting for. Funny, I've never run into any of these people. Rather than being inspired that > some live enlightenment in the Here And Now, > they actually resent it. When those who are > no longer waiting offer simple and practical > and compassionate suggestions as to how the > waiters could stop waiting, the waiters reject > their advice completely and claim that the Here > And Now folks are trying to run their lives and > then they go back to waiting. Never seen anybody do that either. But your description is so eloquent, it almost makes one wonder whether it isn't a bit of projection. > It's just the weirdest spiritual scene I've > ever run into. :-) > > On some level, all this waiting, all this > avoidance of enlightenment as a Here And Now > phenomenon may actually *be* "perfect just as it > is." But it sure strikes me as a pretty silly, > self-indulgent form of perfection. And your self-serving, smug, complacent misconstrual of what's really going on, as well as your lack of comprehension of "perfect just as it is," looks pretty silly and self-indulgent to me too. But it's perfect just as it is. It'll also be perfect if one day in the future you manage to get over it. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
