--- In [email protected], "seekliberation" <seekliberation@...> wrote: > > > Sorta like the difference between operating a drone from a > > comfortable bunker to slaughter the "enemy" (often > > accidentally including civilians) by computer vs. shooting > > them up close and personal on the ground. > > I wouldn't associate big business with military.
Um, it's just an analogy, not an association per se. > Operating a drone could be percieved as 'murder'. Even if > only intended for a violent extremist who is shooting at an > American with an AK-47, all it takes is one civilian to be > nearby, and it opens up a logical argument of negligent > homicide. > > The worst I could accuse big business of is enslaving people > (if you consider being given a job with responisbilities, a > paycheck, and freedom to do what you want with that paycheck > to be slavery). Perhaps some businesses will work people to > their wit's end and give them less than what they deserve. > As bad as that sounds, I still wouldn't put it in the same > category as dropping a 500 lb. bomb on foreign insurgents. Again, it's just an analogy. Point being, the way big business operates these days--especially big finance, Wall Street--harms huge numbers of people at a distance, as it were. It's much more than just exploitation of its own workers; it damages the whole society (or "99 percent" of it) by sucking money out of the economy and putting it in the hands of the 1 percent. And the political influence of that 1 percent--because of its enormous wealth--makes it impossible to institute measures to remedy the situation. > > > > Hard to say which is more heartless. At least with > > organized crime, there's less likely to be unintended > > "collateral damage." > > > > > > > Where the line is drawn, IMO, is the extent to which one will go to > > > achieve their means. For example, some meat eaters will go buy a steak. > > > But very few of them will actually hack an animal to pieces, or go > > > hunting. They don't have the heart for it. The whole meat industry > > > depends on someone who is willing to kill the animal. Without that, > > > those who do not have the heart for it are stuck with being vegetarians. > > > > > > I think your argument is that the meat eater is just as guilty as the > > > butcher. I can see your logic. But to me the absolute cruelty to watch > > > a human suffer right in front of your eyes is way different from someone > > > who is oblivious due to lack of education or awareness. So to me, there > > > is a big difference between the corporations and organized crime, even if > > > they deal with one another (which i'm sure they do). > > > > > > seekliberation > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Oh, come on now, let's not whitewash American corporations. Their > > > > hands > > > > are very dirty, so much so that the line between organized crime and > > > > corporate crime is very blurred. Look at all the fraud that brought us > > > > this economic collapse. The bankers acted like loan sharks. The > > > > corporations just started using the business models of organized crime. > > > > > > > > On 11/21/2011 05:55 PM, seekliberation wrote: > > > > > corporate crime results in people working harder and getting less. > > > > > Organized crime results in people having their body parts dismembered > > > > > and women being sold as sex slaves on the black market. It's rampant > > > > > throughout the world. Here in our safe haven that we refer to as > > > > > America it's a lot less visible. > > > > > > > > > > seekliberation > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Bhairitu<noozguru@> wrote: > > > > >> What is the difference between corporate crime and organized crime? > > > > >> > > > > >> On 11/20/2011 01:49 PM, seekliberation wrote: > > > > >>> It is great to see people rising against corruption, but I doubt > > > > >>> that they know the full extent of corruption in this world. I > > > > >>> doubt people realize the control that mafi and organized crime have > > > > >>> throughout the world. Is anybody fighting the mafia too? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> seekliberation > > > > >>> > > > > >>> --- In [email protected], nablusoss1008<no_reply@> > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqWdyM91hFA > > >
