Post number 50 for my beloved and Robin. I was saving it to slay Jim. Because I have no agenda, I have no selfishness, I have brutal honesty, playful dishonesty, dedicated to nothing but the truth, willing to ruin my reputation, humiliate myself publicly in the cause of my pursuit for the higher truth, willing to sacrifice for integrity, ever alert, fluidly, gracefully adapting to the perplexing, dazzling, dizzying, constant shifting reality. So I'm in no hurry to respond to Jim, I have the whole of eternity available. I bow down to your unenlightened white ass my dear Robin, to the man whose exceptional intellect is unmatched and possibly the only intellect that can explain RTM (Ravi Transgressive Mode - I like it), whose dedication to understand RTM it seems is unseen and unheard of, that the ignorant, retarded liars, crooks, emotionally damaged ones who have covered themselves with layers and layers of some of the basest, crudest, grossest states of consciousness, that these MF'ers are so threatened. They dive into a personal conversation between the mystic who naturally follows RTM and the exceptional intellectual who formulated RTM and would like to understand it. Pathetic. Sad. Miserable MF'ers. Ravi is a slave of his lovers and slayers of the intellectuals, the pimps. When your message reached I was in my most utter humanness, in pain, in sadness, shock - I was utterly numb and just crashed on my desk chair exhausted after just a 2 hour sleep the previous night caused by my intense love to my beloved. I woke up exhausted, still numb because my most beautiful, radiant beloved was mad at me. Listen to this Robin - this is the first time that RTM has functioned such. No slaying, no abusing, no provoking, no enchanting, tempting, no Kali or Mohini moves. Just unconditional love, the Durga energy, that RTM can hurt people by just showing unconditional love. But then Steve - are you reading this? My beloved is the real heartland. And I in pursuit of my higher values of truth, brutal honesty, my integrity was willing to sacrifice my own selfish needs to heal my wound caused by my love being viciously, cruelly, brazenly, ferociously rejected by my ex. Rick asked in my interview if I was selfless - I unflinchingly said yes. But I have been thinking of this statement since then. Robin - I have irrefutable proof today. That RTM is so ruthless in its pursuit of truth, honesty and integrity that it was willing to destroy Ravi's petty, selfish, stupid needs to heal his own wounds. I already knew my beloved loved me. She is her Virgo Venus little ways showed she cared for me. She posted poems from Sufi saints that she knew I loved, she went and researched on Mira, who I told her merged into Lord Krishna. Steve - listen to the love of my beloved, the real Mid Western Heartland girl. She practiced hard to sing a song in Telugu, my native tongue and then asked me ever so gently, so innocently to back her up. She touched me, she was all the more beautiful, all the more radiant, more loving and all I had to do was walk to her car and ask her out again. But what does this mean machine - this RTM dedicated to truth, honest and integrity decides to do? It refuses to heal the personal wounds of Ravi Chivukula in it grandiose, megalomaniac higher pursuit. zarzari_786 - are you reading this as well? RTM forces Ravi to realize that he loves his beloved too much, he sees that she is perfect in all sense but she needs to the embodiment of strength and valor like Rukmini. RTM forces Ravi into deep pain, sadness, misery to sacrifice his personal selfish needs in its higher pursuit of making his beloved rise higher in consciousness. RTM makes Ravi use his sheer unconditional love, none of the patented Kali-Durga and Mohini-Kali maneuvers. RTM forces Ravi to hurt his own beloved, the beautiful, radiant one through the energy of Durga - unconditional love. Rukmini - are you reading this? The unconditional love, truth, honesty, integrity of Ravi Chivukula is such that he will slay himself, he will humiliate himself, he will engage in playful silly antics, behave like a circus clown, a court jester, or a stand up comedian. And Robin as I lay vulnerable, sad, suffering, niserable, painful, shocked, numbed and the helpless inability of my intellect to understand RTM, Robin swoops in like the Eagle and as soon as I read his message I feel blissed out again. Because I'm coming closer and closer to understand the mean machine of RTM. I understand that RTM made my beloved stronger by making her type that email to me. So I achieved the purpose of making her stronger, brave even if it meant I had to slay myself. Now Rukmini if you are still reading this, I sent an email to you and posted videos on Facebook. A little secret - I moved to LA because I knew you were in pain and sadness with a deep longing to love someone unconditionally. Rukimini - you finally found your Krishna, a playful, deceptive Krishna for sure - but he is intensely loyal to his partner. Liberals - raunchy, Alex are you reading this too? Liberals are very heart centered and I love them dearly - ask Bob Price, Bob knows my heart. Bob - are you reading this well? Liberals are insulated themselves with their strong beliefs in Church of Liberalism so much that they are fascinated for Gandhi, Teresa. They don't realize that they are living in a materially rich society but are worshipping Gurus icons from a 100 years back, from Gurus icons who were serving materially deprived people and that they don't apply to a country like America. America needs Krishna, the Krishna that is accompanied by his beloved Rukmini, the Krishna that entertains one and all, is playful with all his Gopis, all the older women that adore him. America needs a Guru like Ravi Chivukula, the closest that anyone can come to Krishna, considering the Kali Yuga. Robin - I have no fascination for Hinduism, I never chanted Hindu chants when growing up, my mother was liberal enough to not care, I mocked the Gods standing outside the temple, mocking the Gods for sitting inside the temples whereas Ravi would stand with the beggards, donating the few rupees he had to the beggars, just being there lovingly, though he had no verbal ability to communicate his love. Robin, I was never a Hindu and am not confined to Hinduism. I don't even believe that a person such as Lord Krishna ever existed, may be he did it's none of my business. It's just that the richness of metaphors in Hinduism that are Krishna, Durga, Kali, Mohini are unmatched. With the help of Robin I can now use terms devoid of Hinduism as well - slayer, provocateur, enchantress, temptress - no worries Robin. I know how I can reach the American audience - I have been training myself my whole life, train every day so I learn new words, new adjectives. Feste37 - are you reading too?Xeno - how about you? No Xeno I don't hate you, I was a dry intellectual like Xeno before my enlightenment. I would mock the English language - the need for so many adjectives. But I can see it was because of my dry intellect, now I'm completely heart centered. Feste37 - you are right, you noticed my intent. I now love words, I love the English language, I will make English a heart centered language like my favorite Urdu. One day I will end up using all the adjectives that I can find on Merriam Webster online. Because I'm so full of love that I can't stop using adjectives - I always like sets of 2 or 3 adjectives to describe any noun - because I want to create love and the only way I can do it is by adding multiple adjectives to a noun. Robin just move to Venice, the modern Dwarka, so you can see Krishna and Rukmini dating together.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Dear Ravi, > > You must help me out, Ravi, for I am more perplexed and stymied by a particular reality than I think I have ever been over anything I have experienced in my life. > > Now this is going to be a little complicated, but I am going to do my best to clarify just what my question is to you (which I would like answered), so that I can resolve this mystery. The mystery, of course, is all about you. > > You see, RaviI am going to say something terribly obvious here, so stay with me,you do insult, goad, provoke, even violate other human beings on this forum. Now, whenever someone actually unjustifiably does something like this, there is always evidenceat least there has always been for me, even when I was a young childof the malice, hatred, frustration, violence, resentmentor whatever: something negative in other wordsin the person who does this. Even, I believe if there in fact is some *justifiable* basis for going after a person; hardly anyone knows how to do this without exhibiting something deficient or distorted in themselvesJudy is an exception to this; or at least so I believe. Whatever Judy's problem iswhich I am not privy toit is not evidently a personal one. There may be something intrinsically problematic about the existential Judy, but for all we know, she could be a tough love secular saint. That's my read on her anyhow. But let me get back to my main point: Ravi, in your creative confrontationswhat I would like to from here on refer to as the Ravi Transgressive Mode (RTM)not only do you not exhibit evidence of your own weakness, envy, jealousy, unhappiness etc etc etc; but more than this: *You don't give evidence of anything personal at all!* In other words, there is no disclosure of who the person Ravi is in the act of deploying your RTM. Now no one knows this; no one asks this question; but, as Maharishi was fond of saying, everyone *is in the benefit of* this truth: Ravi does not reveal anything about himself in the very act of being more outrageous and shameless than anyone I have ever known. > > Now, as I say, Ravi, I have made it a point of conscientious study since I was a small child to see the projection factor in everyoneonce they go to the negative side of life. Even if they are engaged in an act of justice or purportedly righting a wrong: like, say, taking down Saddam. No matter how inspired or objective one is in seeing something unattractive or corrupt or false in someone, the very act of redressing this is fraught with peril. Not in terms of necessarily the final efficacy of the execution of this act; that is, stinging the person with the trutheither through irony or just logic and reason; through moral embarrassment or humiliation; or whatever is one's means of doing thisbut in terms of not drawing out some, however infinitesimally, unexamined, unresolved, unclarified 'fault' in oneself. When we judge someone [which presumably is why Christ uttered those words: Judge not that you be not judged"], we almost inevitablyeven if we are talking about someone as unredeemable as Charlie Mansonshow something of the underside of ourselves, perhaps something we have never recognized to ourselves, but it is there. > > Now in your going after various persons at FFLI am not going to be specific hereyou almost make it impossible for someone who is a witness to the RTM not to infer that there is something mad, dark, perverted, wrong, negative about yourself. But here is where, Ravi, it gets interesting. Not one person at FFLat least based upon my own close inspectionhas, *to their own objectified and self-evident satisfaction*found the secret mote in Ravi's eye, the cancer in his heart, the blackguard truth in his soul, the insanity in his mind. > > So, you can anticipate my hypothesis: it is *this*the inability intuitively or even subconsciously to sense the negative or the insane in youat a gut levelwhich causes the disorientation, the fury, the anxiety, the hostility, the righteous indignation in response to your employing the RTM. Sure, people can focus strictly on the content of what you have said, and thereby justify their outrage, their retaliation, their sense of having been violated; but without actually getting a hold of what it is in you which has some correlation with this interpersonal desecrationyou essentially refuse to defer even in the very least to the felt integrity and privacy of the other person: that in fact is the transgressive power of the act: to knowingly ignore every tacitly understood taboo within your speaking to someone whom you do not know personally: you go for the ultimate shock; and few persons are ready for thisI know I wasn't when I first came on FFL":without, then, sensing the psychological cause or even just the experiential origin of the RTM, people are left just to lash out in a metaphysical vacuum. Because you have not provided them with the infallibly known clues to why you are doing this; how you are doing this; and what they should do when you do this. > > With me up to this point, Ravi Chivukula [you should use that name in my opinion; it has something aristocratic about its soundfor me anyhow]? > > We get to the whole point of this post: I would like to ask you, Ravi, whether you can explain to me, to us, what are the mechanics, the secret mechanics, of your first of all: seeing into people; secondly, how you select your tactics in approaching or addressing that person; thirdly, what your experience is of yourself in the act of deploying the RTM [just a reminder to the reader: that's the Ravi Transgressive Modedeployed in it most extreme and seemingly indefensible form in one post to raunchydog]. > > You see, no one at FFL has figured outI certainly haven'tthe cause and effect principle of the RTM. Because from a psychological or even metaphysical level, you leave no trace of yourself when you do this. In fact, *that is the very secret potency of the act*: that you don't leave any fingerprints at the crime scene that could be identified as belonging to you. There are no forensics when it comes to investigating one of Ravi's psychologically illegal acts. > > What I want to know, Ravi, is whether you are simply a witness to this actjust take one of your posts todayor whether you have access to a means of remaining hidden and concealed inside this act such that, when you perform it (the RTM), even you have to realize that while it is going onthe enactment of this violative performance*you yourself are forbidden any experience inside yourself*else, if you experienced some thrill or sensation of satisfaction while in the act, this would be detected by the person who is the object of your analysis, or at least by some more disinterested observer of this execution of the RTM. > > I still don't believe my experience when I read one of these posts. Now there are a number of respectable and even in some cases, honourable, persons on FFL who either think you mad, or imbalanced, or rude, or id-drivenor whatever: but there is no intuitively felt consensus whatsoever about this. Of course one may predicate one's reaction to what you do on the notion of insanity or crazy enlightenment or uncouthness or vulgarity or sexual frustrationI am sure there is a specific theory that each person at FFL holds about you; but I doubt that any are literally identicalalthough there will be amongst some persons, some politically driven need to categorize you without any willingness to entertain the complexity of the real factsand I of course believe I am getting to, or near to, the real facts in this post. > > But this will never do the job of actually *getting to the secret of the RTM*, let alone the secret of Ravi Chivukula. Just answer this one question, Ravi: *Are you aware of what is going on here in a way that is consistent with all or at least some of what I have said here? That is to say, are you conscious of the secret mechanics of hiddenness of the RTM? Do you know something about yourself which we could never know? > > And don't go telling me all about that Hindu crap: I refuse to attribute what you do to the special powers granted or bestowed upon you by your Awakening*But* should you be able to convince me of your sincerity in doing so, by all means go ahead and invoke The Beloved, the Existence, the Self of whatever. *You see, Ravi Chivukula* I am interestedthis is my biasin the PERSON THAT IS RAVI CHIVUKULA. Because he, so far, remains hidden altogethercertainly from everyone of us at FFL; and perhaps even from yourself. I am particularly interested in whether the latter is true. But for that to be true, means that your unconfused mode of transgression of all Western Civilization interpersonal protocol, requires you *not to know how you do what you do*. And this fascinates me: as in: Is it possible, Ravi, that there is an ontological form of transcendence when you insult someone at FFL, such that you, in order to do this in the consummate dissonant outrageous way, must yourself be detached from the experience when it happens to you; and that only after the factwhen you have finished writing your postare you then permitted the satisfaction of taking delight in the extraordinary unconditioned act of interpersonal lawlessness that you have just so perfectly committed? > > You see, according to my having determined that God is omnisubjectiveor at least he was when he was aroundit must mean that, at all times, you have an experience of being Ravi. This experience is somewhere known by a certain intelligence in the universe which is not Ravi Chivukula. And if this is true, you are having an experience of what it is like to be Ravi when you deploy the RTM here at FFL. And yetthis is the whole point of this postnot one of us can detect the evidence that you are in fact *having an experience of what it is like to be Ravi* while performing this act of ultimate interpersonal transgression. > > Because, RaviI am sure of thisif you were undergoing an experience subjectively of being who you arethat is, having a first person ontological experiencethen I think, with all my obsessive focus on this dimension of a person, I at least could detect what that experience is. I cannot. And this goes to the wonderful yet vexing mystery of Ravi. > > You see, even the gods have a first person ontology when they do what they do. Or at least I can't imagine them not having this kind of subjective selfhood. I feel with absolute certainty that they do. But in the case of yourself your first person ontologyat least in this one act of confronting mercilessly, pitilessly, tenaciously a particular poster at FFLis as if suspended from existence. And there is the quintessence of what I am am seeking to clarify here, Ravi Chivukula: what is the experiential context of Ravi Chvukula when he unabashedly transgresses against the proprietorial privileges of a given soul, privileges the person even feels that God must respect. And you don't! > > Nobody at FFL in my estimationNo, not even you, sweet Barrynor you, puissant Curtishas the slightest notion of what is going on with Ravi Chivukula. Of course in reading these very words you will reflexively, involuntarily deny this pointeven without taking it in and using the Negative Capability which is almost a prerequisite here at FFLif, that is, you want to *discover anything about yourself* through posting and counter-posting at FFL. > > So, then Ravi, this is the purpose of my post: to uncover the secret mechanics of how you can act in such a radical and impermissible waymanifestly doing that which would make people certain of your madness, your id-ness, your insecurity, your crudeness, your stupidity, your indulgent recklessnessor whatever: every reader on FFL will have formed his or her theory about Ravi Chivukula. But there will be no one whoexcept through some arbitrary and abstract theorycan explain the first person ontological secret of Ravi Chivukula. > > This letter is my attempt to do a service for myself and for everyone who has any interest in the Indian yogi living in California: which is to say, track you down, corner you, and force you to reveal yourself. I will be most interested in seeing whether in answering this post you actually begin to disclose something about yourself that so far has remained brilliantly hidden from all of usand perhaps even hidden from yourself. > > I take your chanting on that video to offer no clues whatsoever as to the answer to my question. And why do I say that? Because the person there, one would think, could never do what you do on a regular basis here at FFL. Your praises, you should knowyour anti-transgressive modeare revelational as to a person who is deeply thoughtful, humble, open, intelligent, and fair. I wonder if there is anyone in the worldor has ever been anyone in the worldwho could so suavely switch from the RTM to the RLMthe Ravi Transgressive Mode to the Ravi Loving Mode. It is a mindbreakder. Now tell us something about yourself that none of us know, Ravi Chivukula. > > Robin >
