Dear Vaj: Yeah, the Bob guy goofed big-time here. Good that you caught him in this faux pas. I think you may have done himthe Bob guya favour, After all, he just has to know about Carlos Santana's attitude towards Chinmoy to realize that to quote this guy (SC) as some paragon of wisdom is going to kick up in his (BP's) face.
I maintain my animus against all things Eastern, because that is how I got out from under the hallucination of my enlightenment. As soon as someone quotes some Guru (who lived in my lifetimeother than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who is very differenteven with all his problems), the universeor so it seems to merefuses to lend any kind of support; so one is suddenly on one's own. I think Bob Price quite brilliant [see my eulogy when he had unsubscribed]; but as soon as he turned in the direction of Sri Chinmoy he diminishedat least for that momenthis credibility. Although not necessarily in the minds of FFL readers; but in the mind of the intelligence behind creation [IMO]. As for my sins of the past to which you refer, I have paid for them, I am still paying for them, and I will pay for them. I think it not a particularly valid form of argument to bring in the business of what someone said in their notorious and disavowed past, when quite clearly that person (who allegedly acted in some way which can be seen to have been wrong) has radically changed their philosophyand has stated quite publicly that they were in an hallucinatory state at the time. I ask you to come at me based upon what you can infer from my posts at FFL, Vaj: I am sure all of us have done things we are not proud of, especially when we go back nearly 30 years. But I suppose I had it coming, given my desperation regarding your approach here at FFL. But all this is part of a past that I repudiate. I am happy to be held accountable for all my actions in my post-Unity waking state consciousness, Vaj. But not when I as an individual seemed to have become "cosmic". You see, had I now met the Robin I was then (early 1980's), I would have approached him as someone deceived, even with all his sincerity and the obviously sense that he was experiencing his actions as under the aegis and even control of cosmic intelligence. Try to deal with the issues as they naturally come up in the present, Vaj; at least in this sense: that we meet each other where we are now. I wish for good things for you, Vaj. Glad you stayed away from Chinmoy. But back there in those days when I was in Unity Consciousness I was an autonomous center of radical theatre and extreme purposefulness in every second, and I experienced my actions to have the imprimatur of reality. Reality, as it were, seemed to be running me. And I did many foolish and ill-advised things. For which I would judge myself now harshly. But let us stick to what is fair game here, Vaj, buddy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote: > > > On Dec 18, 2011, at 5:04 AM, Bob Price wrote: > > > "Let us try to know the spiritual significance of tolerance. Tolerance is > > not conscious submission to a superior power. Real tolerance is compassion > > in disguise. When we have real tolerance, the seeker in us sees the > > expansion of his loving heart, his illumining soul and his fulfilling goal." > > > > -Sri Chinmoy > > Allegations of sexual misconduct were made by ex-disciple Anne Carlton and > two other former disciples.[86] Carlton claimed in the New York Post that > Chinmoy summoned her for sexual encounters over two extended periods, in 1991 > and 1996.[86] Other women have also recounted similar stories, and one even > revealed that Chinmoy had paid for her abortion after getting her pregnant in > the early 1980s.[87]Allegations against Chinmoy were published in the book > 'The Joy of Sects'.[88] In response, Chinmoy denied the accusation, stating > he was a life-long celibate and sexual misconduct allegations against him > were false and defamatory.[89] > ___ > > http://www.rickross.com/reference/srichinmoy/srichinmoy20.html > > > What's with this false master karma Bobby? > > Hey Robin, you still takin' followers? >
