> Last week Kelly Kirkpatrick did try with
> an editorial
> published on the Fairfield Ledger's opinion page
> (Thurs Aug11-05).  It
> was a noteworthy piece to pop up on the opinion page
> because it does
> show a mind of the true-believing here yet.  Kelly
> has been an
> activist member of the 8000Now! Committee.

Yes...Kelly's passion for the movement is likely
exceeded only by his passion for Rush Limbaugh.

--- dhamiltony2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In [email protected], "Llundrub"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > The problem with the modern TM movement is that
> > it's trying to insist that to appreciate its
> > company's products you have to revere the CEO 
> > as holy and its sales managers as kings.
> > 
> 
> It's not often that anyone publicly defends the TMO
> status quo here
> directly.  Last week Kelly Kirkpatrick did try with
> an editorial
> published on the Fairfield Ledger's opinion page
> (Thurs Aug11-05).  It
> was a noteworthy piece to pop up on the opinion page
> because it does
> show a mind of the true-believing here yet.  Kelly
> has been an
> activist member of the 8000Now! Committee.  In
> defense, he carefully
> argues that MMY's is the highest knowledge and
> concludes that "one
> cannot respect someone who claims total knowledge
> unless one believes
> he has it.  Therefore, if one respects MMY one must
> believe everything
> he says". 
> 
> His several premise are: <snip for brevity> "The
> best way to improve
> the individual it would also follow if you believed
> MMY, is to own the
> movement." i.e., fidelity.
> "If one believes that MMY is who he says he is, then
> one must believe
> that this prescription is right and its claimed
> rewards should be put
> to the test.  A quiet way to do this is MMY's group
> practice of yogic
> flying which he describes as the most powerful
> technique for
> individual and community evolution."
>  "Eric Gable's piece on the TM movement and Ammaji
> was good but missed
> a few underlying points. <> But any non-saint who
> claimed to have the
> highest knowledge would be a fake and evil"
> 
> So there we have described one version of `status
> quo' in FF in the
> middle, as the population dwindles.  It reads like
> he is firm in his
> belief. And would probably be kind of tough to have
> a reconciling talk
> with someone like this who is so firm in a belief
> structure that
> starts with the conclusion that `thee is a false and
> evil'.
>  
> Are we even close to talking about truth and
> reconciliation? 
> Alignment?  Evidently not.  It may be that nothing
> can happen until
> MMY is gone, as John Hagelin did say in that public
> meeting in the
> Public Library; that then after MMY may be some
> things can be done to
> remedy the situation.  Seems like the community is
> between a rock and
> a hard place of unmoving faith.
> 
> JGD,
> 
> -Doug 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > -----The problem with the modern TMO is that it
> decided to make
> heaven on earth in its own image, surplanting the
> Divine will.
> > 
> > The problem with the TMO is that they appeal to
> the most hateful
> logic as the backbone of their schemes such as
> appealing to
> sociopathic dictators to fund their programs based
> upon such hateful
> concepts as the self destruction of democracy and
> capitalism.  
> > 
> > It's not that capitalism is good, just that the
> idea of banking on
> its collapse is especially hateful and not any sort
> of loving or
> charitable or kind logic. 
> > 
> > Satan I believe translated into -the Accuser.-  
> > 
> > My belief is that the structure of the TMO as a
> world peace
> government is a pack of lies built upon a pack of
> lies. Betraying
> everything it originally said it stood for. I think
> all those who
> place their stakes in it will find themselves at the
> end in a very
> adverse position. Probably in the mirror image of
> what they thought
> they were.
> 
> 
> 
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