Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Paradise Lost?)

[Llundrub]

I think that the only way through misery to experience the expanse of life as good is to recognize its elemental goodness and realize that it's the mere delusory evaluation of the intellect which ascribes values to nature, but then humankind, caught up in the intellectual evaluation falls even further from original cognition of goodness and loses touch even more.   There are no demons but the demons of the human delusory evaluation. The elements of Nature are goodness itself.     ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Gimbel To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 4:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Paradise Lost?) The Hell that you speak of and the realm that is sought to control, is right here on the earth; as you can observe in the miriad hellish situations and conditions, on this planet at the present time, and in the long history of the human race. It seems to be an energy that continues to seek to delude and confuse, and ultimately destroy, because if God is Love, and created the earth in love, to express and extend this positive energy, then those forces opposed to this could be called demonic energies. > > On Aug 16, 2005, at 1:48 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: > > > > > How is that different from a hell dimension? It sounds pretty > > > hellish to me... > > > > The predominant cause for being there is different, it's heavier, and > > the realm itself is very different. > > Just want to add something that might have relevance in this > discussion.  It's been in my mind lately.  Specifically, a few years > ago Bill Moyers was interviewing a philospher by the name of Campbell > about the concept of hell and the devil. > > Growing up as a Baptist, Moyers mentioned that a Christian theologian > once stated that the Devil is in hell because he 'loved' the Creator.  > Being in hell, his only satisfaction is in recalling the memory of the > Creator and the bliss of heavenly paradise. > > In my own opinion, being once a powerful Archangel himself, Lucifer and > his allies decided to rebel against the Creator and his angels knowing > full well that they were going to lose the battle.  In effect, they > chose to go to hell because it was an available option in the heavenly > realm.  It was the only option where they can have a certain degree of > authority that is independent and apposed to the Creator's. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.