I hope, as you do Feste, we can we can get some insight into these weighty matters. In the meantime, someone better check on Judy.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <feste37@...> wrote: > > Gosh, golly. This is serious stuff. It is shaping up as a Shakespearean play, a clash of "mighty opposites." The next scene should be good. The audience must already be pondering the mysterious revelation below that authfriend has been working with MZ for 17 YEARS behind the scenes to discredit Barry. Can it be so? Really? And who, we absolutely must know, are the equally mysterious "masters" that MZ serves? And what about the capitalized "Others" for whom authfriend declares she is working? Who on earth might they be? > > And I thought all this time that FFL was just an Internet chat forum. Now I see it is a cloak-and-dagger tale of mighty forces, shifting alliances, outrageous betrayals, and turbulent passions. Perhaps there is a playwright behind all this, who is actually plotting a way for the reviled poster from Holland to regain lost ground and reign supreme, his enemies confounded and at his mercy. Will he choose magnanimity or revenge? We shall find out. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote: > > > > Traitor. Turncoat. > > > > After working with me for 17 years now to discredit > > Barry, staying discreetly behind the scenes until > > just recently, you've decided to switch sides. > > > > Or were you on his side all along, acting as a double > > agent, setting me up for this odious betrayal? > > > > That was the plan all along, wasn't it? > > > > It all becomes clear to me now. Your masters trained > > you well in the art of deception; I never suspected. > > > > But it hardly matters. The damage you've done with > > this post is well-nigh irreparable. Almost two decades > > of exhausting labor to counter everything Barry says, > > even what he says outside the context of TM, everything > > his *allies* say, straight down the tubes. > > > > I imagine you're pretty proud of yourself right about > > now. "For in the end, I assure you, Barry will be > > vindicated." > > > > Yes, you've bloody well made sure of that, haven't you? > > > > "Barry is the martyr here." > > > > No, *Judy* is the martyr here. But her blood, her > > sweat, her toil, her unswerving devotion to the cause, > > will not go unavenged. Enjoy your moment of triumph, > > for it will not, it cannot last. > > > > "Would you even just for the sake of how much I have > > defended you in the past, think about what I have said > > here?" > > > > Yes, I most certainly will think about it. And so will > > others, the Others for whom I've been tirelessly > > working, whose power is more vast than you dream. You > > may be certain they've taken note of your perfidy, and > > there will be, not a reconciliation, as you so fondly > > imagine, but a showdown and a reckoning. Your masters > > have overreached themselves and in so doing wrought > > their own destruction. > > > > Count on it...and tremble. > > > > > > OR (your choice): > > > > > > I grovel here before you, the bitter dust of > > humiliation filling my mouth as I struggle to > > formulate the words of my repentance. > > > > "There are none so blind as those who will not see." > > That was me, right up until the moment I read this > > post. > > > > I am still blinded, but now by the light, the blessed > > light of Truth. > > > > I dare not hope for reconciliation; my sins have been > > too great for that. I can only pray that those whom I > > have so grievously misled through my own hubris will > > understand and accept what you have laid out before > > them at such personal cost and repudiate the Cult of > > Judy. For it is dead; Robin has slain it. > > > > Robin, I cannot express my boundless gratitude for > > the selflessness of the holy work you have just > > accomplished here. In the pain with which it has > > seared my very soul may others find sweet release. > > > > Now let us all together, cleansed of our hatred and > > joined in our determination to march forth into > > sanctified renewal, repeat the beautiful prayer the > > Devoted Brother Vaj has composed for us on this > > awesome occasion: > > > > Hail Barry, full of Grace, Blessed be the fruit of his > > thumbs. > > > > Can I get an AAAA-MEN? > > > > Hallelujah! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > In withdrawing from FFL I have had time to reflect upon my history there and the characters I have interacted with. > > > > > > It will perhaps come as a shock to some, but in reading Barry more closely and without the intense bias that has gripped me right from the start when Barry appeared to make himself immune to the effects of my posts, I have concluded that essentially Barry is right. Right not just about Judy; but right about even myself. Barry is arguing from a point of view which I have up until very recently been unable to accept�even tolerate. And this was of course because of his refusal to take me seriously in what I said in all my posts. For Barry, these were tedious, narcissistic, and melodramatic. Well, it turns out he was right. At least this is the conclusion I have come to by being brave enough to consider that my own defensiveness and touchiness in reacting to his criticism of me and my posts was preventing me from having an experience that I needed to have: namely, that my own estimate of my posts did not necessarily coincide with the truth, with reality. > > > > > > Whereas *his* estimate of my posts did achieve such correspondence. > > > > > > So, as much as I hate to do this, given how much I have invested in this anti-Barry project, I have to admit it: Barry is not only correct in his assessment of Judy (see his argument with Emily and Raunchydog), his judgment of me and my posts is valid as well. > > > > > > Now I would just ask the readers of FFL�those who have aligned themselves with Judy, with Robin, with the now departed Bob Price, with Jim and others�to reconsider their position, since for someone like myself to undergo a change of perception this significant, a change which I was determined would not and could not happen, suggests something very powerful at work here. You remember Saul persecuting the Christians and then being struck down on the Road to Damascus by Christ, and in the violence of his conversion becoming a fierce defender of Christ. Well, although I did not undergo quite as spectacular a transformation of belief, I think there are parallels here, and to the extent to which Saul became Paul, I have become a very different Robin. I don't say that Barry is Jesus or anything like that. That would be absurd. And even if I did think that Barry was Christ, I know he would only have contempt for such a view of him. So, no, I won't go that far. But I will say that in the main Barry has been right all along, and even his most vitriolic and bitter posts have been in the service of somehow forcing people to see what they, like me, were blind to. > > > > > > Well, I have been persuaded, and in a way which really means something, that Barry is the martyr here, and I can't tell you (although Steve perhaps has somewhat had the foretaste of such a sensation�but only very mildly) how much better I feel, not just in my heart, but in my conscience. I am not going to congratulate myself on what I have accomplished here in mortifying my pride and my sense of righteousness to bend the knee and reverse course in my judgment of this person, but I do think that this is a lesson to all of us: no matter how certain and convinced one is right about someone�in this case Barry�there is always the possibility (as in the case of Saul) that one's position actually is in a contradictory relationship to reality, to truth,�to the way things really are. > > > > > > This is undoubtedly the situation here. Barry in his posts has triumphed. And I am sorry to say this, but for Judy, Raunchydog, Bob Price, Jim and others not to see this, or at least not to consider this as a possibility, is nothing less than tragic. For in the end, I assure you, Barry will be vindicated. > > > > > > I can only pray that Judy will realize the importance of contemplating this painful truth when she resumes posting tonight. Judy, are you there? I beg you to consider what I have said here, that Barry is sincere and right in his perspective�not just about you, but about me�and for that matter anyone else at FFL who has determined that Barry is a negative character (at least in what can be known about him from his posts which are critical of other posters). For me, Judy, this process has been very liberating. And I wanted to share this revelation with you before you, very predictably, went on the attack, which I believe Barry, presciently, has anticipated will be what happens just as soon as we see that first post of yours. > > > > > > Judy, I think you an intelligent and well-meaning person; but Curtis and Barry�and even to some extent, although less passionately, Steve�have identified what is wrong with you; and I think you must be courageous enough to finally examine yourself, since I, who until just now was one of your most loyal supporters have undergone an extraordinary change of heart, and have admitted to myself that you are the person in the wrong here, that Barry is right. Would you even just for the sake of how much I have defended you in the past, think about what I have said here? > > > > > > I pray that you will do this, Judy. Because were you to find yourself experiencing what I now experience, you would realize that in seeing Barry as sincere and right yields up an experience of happiness and sense of truthfulness which exceeds beyond what you can even imagine the experience and sense of truthfulness which is the result of holding to your present prejudice and antipathy towards Barry. > > > > > > I am not expecting Barry to exonerate me from my past dealings with him; I don't even say he has to believe me in what I say here. But I can only say that those who have followed me in all my posts at FFL will recognize that in this instance, because I am going so much against the natural direction of my pride and self-esteem, I am communicating a truth which exceeds in its power and significance anything I have ever said at FFL. > > > > > > And I will go one step further. I believe I have laid the basis for not just a rapprochement among the feuding parties, but the foundation for a real healing and reconciliation. I don't however believe it is incumbent upon Barry to respond to this declaration of my newly found faith�that will come soon enough. It is sufficient that I�and those who will follow me in this�express our humility and contrition, even though, as surely Barry knows, we were, when we opposed him, acting out of a sense of sincerity and rightness in all that we said. > > > > > > But you see we were wrong. I can't speak for those who remain hostile to Barry; but I think, as in the case of Saul, there should be some hard thinking about this whole matter And I would ask at the very least that there is a moratorium on this Get Barry Campaign (which seemingly never ends) until there has been time to allow what I have said here to infiltrate the deeper regions of the heart�as well as the mind. > > > > > > I am sorry, Judy. But this feels better. And I can only wish for you to have the experience I am having now. > > > > > >
