--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@...> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote:
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > *To the extent that MMY made assertions about the
> > > > > behavior of enlightened people--speaking the "sweet
> > > > > truth" and such--he contradicted himself. I assume
> > > > > he did so in an effort to encourage his students to
> > > > > behave in the manner he described. This might make
> > > > > for an interesting discussion if we could get off
> > > > > the stupid dime here of charges and countercharges.
> > > > 
> > > > Speaking the sweet truth is a behavioral rasayana.
> > > 
> > > OK, great clarification and explanation. But MMY *did*
> > > describe the alleged behavior of enlightened people.
> > 
> > I don't know that he described the behavior of enlightened
> > people per se, but only pointed out that some behavior
> > might be more enlighten-ING (life supportive) than other
> > behavior, in general.
> 
> Well, you and raunchy are making me doubt, now. I could
> have sworn I remembered hearing descriptions of
> enlightened behavior, but I can't recall the context. I
> wasn't thinking of behavioral rasayanas; I know "sweet
> truth" is one, but I had thought it was descriptive as
> well as prescriptive. Maybe not.
> 
> > One cannot JUDGE another persons' enlightenment merely on
> > the level of their behavior if one is unenlightened, I
> > believe is a broader expression of his observations on the
> > topic. 
> 
> Yes, as I was pointing out in my original post. What's
> quoted above was just a footnote to that.
>

He might have. I reserve MMY's right to be self-contradicting in word and 
action because, even if he WAS enlightened, that doesn't mean he was perfect in 
any Western scientific sense of the word.

L.


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