--- In [email protected], "emptybill" <emptybill@...> wrote: <snip> > The theoretical framework Robin was using (back in the WTS days) > appears to have been a Gnostic paradigm of human experience. Why > he would ever choose to interpret his own (and others) lived > presence this way is unexplained by him, except for "the Hindu > devils made me do but now I'm free." Gnosticism, in any form, > was not MMY's teaching. It also was not and is not a classical > yogic or Vedantic view.
Not Gnosticism per se, but from what I understand MMY spoke plenty about negative forces and entities, celestial beings, and so forth--the raw materials, as it were. It's too bad Peter Sutphen--long-time TM teacher and certified, practicing psychotherapist--is no longer participating in FFL. He had quite a bit to say about negative entities. Just one example, from long before Robin joined us: "I found Robin to be fascinating and very clear. But I found many of his followers in Fairfield had big demons stuck in their subtle bodies. It was very strange. They looked like the creature from the movie 'Aliens' all wrapped around the person. One of them hissed at me when it realized I could see it. I was eating a burrito at the time. Maybe it was the hot sauce ;-)" The "hot sauce" crack was a joke, but the rest was quite serious. It was one of several posts in which he mentioned being able to see demons. In another post he wrote: "I find this letter [an excerpt from one of Robin's books that Vaj posted] to be absolutely insightful. Robin is trying to articulate that paradox that so many of us experienced (or experience) in the TMO. You have this incredible clarity and radiation of sattva from a powerful program that allows conscious contact with Being, but on the personal level all sorts of screwed-up things are going on. "From another perspective this is the beginning of the 'fall' of RWC. He progressively became more and more obsessed with the 'demonic' and his battle against it until this is nearly all he saw in others. All in all, though, an amazing, insightful commentary about a huge problem in the TMO." You can read Peter's comment and the book excerpt here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/201756 Despite his occasional references to demons, Peter has always been considered one of the more thoughtful, rational, balanced TMers on FFL.
