--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > That's even sillier than the silliest interpretation of MMY's 
> > words. How can you be "off the 
> > program" when following the advice of the guy who invented "the 
> > program?"
> 
> Because the program is not following a guru...it's doing a mental 
> technique that does not require belief or adherence to a guru in 
> order to work...

That's it exactly.  Interestingly, the TM teacher in
this discussion is reserving the right to follow the
path that was described to him when he "signed up" 
for it, whereas the non-teacher is declaring that
the TM teacher "really" signed up to follow a guru.

Shemp's talkin' sense; sparaig's talkin' cult
indoctrination...






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