On 02/13/2012 09:52 AM, Vaj wrote:
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> On Feb 13, 2012, at 12:17 PM, marekreavis wrote:
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>> The key words in your statement were "so people can have cheap 
>> gasoline". My point was your solution to provide cheap gasoline is no 
>> solution at all.
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> Of course the fact that the only cost benefit to consumers would take 
> about 20 years and would only amount to an estimated 10-20 cents per 
> gallon savings isn't ultimately that beneficial. In the interim, we'd 
> likely be plagued by numerous Deepwater Horizon-type events. The only 
> people who'd really benefit is Big Oil and it's investors.
>
> Add to that toxic tack Fracking and "Clean Coal" (there is no such 
> thing) and you can say goodbye to the America we once knew, and the 
> planet.

I haven't seen anyone driving one but they could be easily mistaken for 
a Toyota Yaris, but they are selling the Mitsubishi electric which I 
started seeing about 6 months ago on display at the Mits dealer.  They 
have the range and speed to be a very practical car for around here but 
the damn thing costs about as much as my Forester did.  If I had the 
spare change I might get one (or the long promised not appearing Subaru 
electric) and keep the Forester for trips.  I could put solar cells on 
the roof to charge it though this community is putting in more charging 
stations (they have some downtown).  They are parking spots where you 
put change in the meter and hook up.

This is a refinery town but I swear there are more Prius's here than 
you'll see per capita elsewhere.  I think the refinery people know 
something.  Smart cars also appeared early here. The remaining (now 
gone) Chrysler dealer in this small down sold Gem cars too but those 
things were too slow that the couple driving one down the street 
switched to a smart car later.

The oil companies put this country in a very bad fix.  Dmitri Orlov who 
grew up in Russia and saw the collapse has written that Russia was 
better set up for an economic collapse since they had mass transit and 
apartments along those transit lines that people lived in.  America 
loved the freedom of the car especially here in Kalifornia.  And here it 
is difficult to get around unless you have a car probably because many 
towns were laid out before it became a state and land parcels were 
better laid out. IOW, squirrely winding streets in a lot of places.

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