--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "Patrick
> > > Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > This, from a friend:
> > > > 
> > > > "As for bringing democracy to Iraq, someone said
> > > to 
> > > > me the other day that its like the person driving
> > > around 
> > > > the countryside of Ireland looking for Dublin.
> > > When he 
> > > > stopped to ask a local former for directions, the
> > > farmer 
> > > > thought for a moment, and then said, 'The only
> > > advice 
> > > > I can give you is to start from somewhere other
> > > than here.'"
> > > 
> > > Very well put.
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately, it's too late for us to start
> > > from somewhere else.
> > 
> > The more I read and listen to experts (not AM radio
> > blowhards like Rush and his ilk) the more I realize
> > that democracy coming to Iraq is just some neo-con wet
> > dream. It ain't gonna happen. As soon as we pull-out
> > there is going to be a massive civil war. We can't
> > even stabilize the country with 130,000 troops. We
> > think the Iraquis can? What a joke!
> > 
> I am always suspicious when our government decides that a selected 
> country must be democratic. If you look at ANY example, it is 
always 
> about us; some strategic advantage, in this case clearly 
> oil. 'Democracy' is just the new name for imperialism in the 
Middle 
> East. 
> 
> After all, what would happen if the government began explaining 
the 
> real reasons they did things? A whole lot of self-interest would 
> come parading out of the closet. I've also heard our government 
> explaining its foreign intiatives as 'enlightened self-interest'- 
> just need more enligntenment in the equation. Less enlightenment = 
> more lies.
> 
> Iraqi democracy has nothing to do with Iraqis. It is all about us.


"All love is directed towards the Self"  -- MMY

"I meet no one but me"  -- Rev. Ike




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