--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> [...]
> > (My response to Einstein: God *does* play dice with
> > the universe, but He can calculate the odds to
> > infinity.)
> 
> But that doesn't matter with Quantum Mechanics, because past a 
> certainpoint you CANNOT calculatethe odds. It is purely random, 
unlike 
> a roll of physical dice.

Right, key words in QM: unpredictable, yet deterministic. Einstein 
and Bohr agreed on the deterministic part but disagreed on the 
unpredictable part. (Bohr, like contemporaries in the 
same "tradition" hold that QM is or may be ...(since this is beyond 
ordinary proof) intrinsically random). Another reason that even 
classical particles are inherantly unpredictable is due chaos, and 
the difficulty of calculating with infinite precision the location 
and momentum of particles, say billiard balls.
 A more refined grained type of unpredictability arises due to 
Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.
This topic impinges on the nature of "Deity" (a personal Diety); 
since, making an analogy to metaphysical reality, one can speculate 
on the nature of Deity: or at least an extremely intelligent 
Personality. Can such a Deity predict, with absolute certainty, the 
future of every atom?  We can call such a Futurologist a "Laplacean 
Deity", going back to a famous conversation between the mathematician 
Laplace and Napoleon Bonaparte.  Napoleon speculated on the nature of 
a Deity Who could predict the future with infinite precicison.  Such 
a Diety became known as a "Laplacean Diety" but ironically Laplace 
didn't even believe in such an entity. When Napoleon asked him what 
he thought of God, Laplace said "I have no need of that idea".
 The average physicist today would say that there is no such entity, 
nor can there be. Basically, predicting the future with 100% 
precision is out of the question. 





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