--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Ah, but if God is well read, and has delved into the
> > > > Heisenberg Principle, He'd know that to observe is to
> > > > influence, so out of fairness He wouldn't be watching.  :-)
> > > 
> > > Ah, but if S/H/We weren't watching, nothing would happen :-)
> > 
> > And someone, even in the darkest stillest most abstract unformed 
> > nothingness, is always watching
> 
> Ah, but is this true?  Remember Maharishi's talk 
> about the distinction between Am-ness and Is-ness.
> If one is operating from the level of Am-ness, 
> there would still be the possibility of perceiver
> and perceived, but if one has realized Is-ness,
> is there still the possibility of subject-object,
> of "watching?"
> 
> I don't know, myself.  I'm more of a fan of the
> model of the universe as Operating System, eternal,
> non-sentient.  Never created, never "maintained," 
> just something that IS.  So any of this God stuff 
> is just my way of playing with concepts for the fun
> of it, not something I'm trying to get a handle on 
> or "understand."

What I was attempting to express was the apparent contradiction 
between a featureless Absolute Reality, and the expression of same. 
How can it be expressed if it has never been observed? How can it be 
named if it has never been observed? I was enjoying the paradox.

As for God, the Divine Intelligence, all attributes of Him/Her/Us 
stretch to Infinity when expressing subject/object relationships of 
Him/Her/Us to anything, and are both profound and meaningless. So 
everyone's model or idea of God 'works', whether it is eternal, non-
sentient, or eternal, personalized.

 





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