Chokyi Nyima Rinpoche (CNR) CNR : Thought is samsara. Being free of thought is liberation.
Emptybill: If being "thought free" is liberation then even the beings absorbed in prakriti (prakriti-laya) or those beings absorbed in unconscious cessation (asamjña-nirodha) would be liberated. CNR: The bottom line is this: we need to know how to dissolve thoughts. Emptybill: Already thoughts dissolve naturally. Simple observation shows that thoughts arise, abide and cease on their own without the manipulation of mental or spiritual strategies. CNR: Whenever there is thought, it follows that there is clinging. Emptybill: Wow, what a Buddha! CNR can now give talks like this without generating a single thought and thus without any clinging. (What an enlightened person hovering in our very midst!) CNR: We understand that thinking is delusion. However, to want to be free and at the same time to want to hang on to conceptual thinking is a contradiction in terms. It is something that will not happen. It is an impossible task. Emptybill: Thinking is conceptual by nature. Language is necessarily conceptual since it uses phonemes that perish after their utterance. Memory congregates these quanta of discrete human speech sounds into words, sentences and conventions of meaning. Vyasa's bhasya of Patanjalayogasutra (YS 3.17) discusses all this. To indict thinking, as if it were some disease, is sheer folly and ridiculously contradictory. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote: > > Mahamudra and Dzogchen: Thought-Free Wakefulness > > > > By Chökyi Nyima Rinpoche > > The ability to dissolve thoughts is essential to attaining > liberation, says renowned Dzogchen teacher Chökyi Nyima Rinpoche. > Devotion and Pure Perception are two principles that lie at the root > of Vajrayana practice that lead beyond confusion to thought-free > wakefulness. >
