--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Poor Edg, he just don't get it! Shiva is merely a symbolic form > > > *representing* a formless creative intelligence of nature. There > > > ain't no Shiva out there wearing a tiger skin, > > > > I rather doubt there's a formless creative intelligence out there > > either. Whether there is god or not I have no idea, but I am not counting > > on it. Some automatic, mechanical energy or tendency or physical process > > that tends to organize and alter and destroy physical things sounds likely.
For there to be a god the universe would have to not be > > how it appears to be, which would be stranger than strange. I think science is saying that the universe is not how it appears to be, at least on the quantum level. Objects really are mostly space, not solid, small particles behave very very differently than the visible-to-the-eye world suggests. And making a Huge leap (this for Barry, especially:-)) science is also beginning to suggest that the feeling of having a self that decides and manages our thoughts, decisions and feelings may also not be as it appears to be. None of this means we behave differently, but if it is accurate, it seems worth knowing and thinking about. > > Isn't it fascinating, however, how many spiritual seekers > (including many on this forum) *assume* that the world is > not how it appears to be, and that their view of what it > "really is" is more accurate than the way the universe > presents itself to them? > > Just count the number of people who believe that Unity is > the "highest reality," and that it trumps and supercedes > their own everyday perception of duality. In almost all > cases, the people believing this have never *experienced* > Unity, not even once, much less as an all-time subjective > reality. Yet they are convinced that Unity is the ultimate > reality and that their everyday experience is not. Go figure. >
