--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > I don't see a problem with a Master being a Master. > > > > > > > > > > I understand this statement in the context of the rest > > > > > of your post, Jim, but have to disagree with it anyway. > > > > > I think part of the whole *problem* you discuss below > > > > > is inherent in the term "Master" itself. In the minds > > > > > of *most* people who hear it, it implies *two* things, > > > > > not one. The first, which could be considered admirable, > > > > > is "mastery." The second, which I personally feel has > > > > > no place in spirituality, is "the dominant position in > > > > > a master-disciple or master-slave relationship." The > > > > > latter I see as completely *counterproductive* to the > > > > > realization of enlightenment. > > > > My take is that MMY or MCS felt he was THE master over others. I > think > > he really felt HE was everyone's boss, so to speak. > > > > I think he would have been quite content with "my way or the > highway" > > as his modus operandi. A true spiritual master shows you how to be > > your own master. I don't see MMY/MCS EVER dabbling in this sort of > > counterproductive thinking! > > > > G > > > "A true spiritual master shows you how to be your own master". > > With all the craziness in the TMO over the past 20 years, I have > concluded that the purpose of all the madness is just that: MMY > wants us to be our own masters because to follow the silliness > that's coming out of the TMO is completely irrational. So the only > conclusion reasonable people must come up with is: ditch it all and > follow your own heart.
I think that that is the inadvertent result: people are doing their own thing, which is not exactly the same as having the guidance of a true spiritual teacher. My own feeling is that MMY/MCS had a great idea for making himself "an important person" (as one sometimes heard the Indian people speak). People were interested, but, ultimately, MMY/MCS felt he had failed. Then the Beatles made him famous (I imagine he dearly wished it had been the other way around; it probably didn't do his ego any good at all). So, he bounced back, with a vengence, making hoards of teachers and then selling these teachers a real bill of goods. Then he opened up the market. Very clever, but when I see "spirituality" for sale very, very red flags go a'flappin'. He probably felt he was, now, "an important person", although in Western eyes, he was, like the fab four said: the fool on the hill. In the sense of being poly-spiritual, he taught something of interest. But being his devoted lap dog, as some seem to be, just isn't my thing; I wonder about the mentality for which it is, actually. Mono-spirituality sometimes has the tendency to produce our most horrible nightmares. I cannot remember him saying this, but I am told that he did: if your guru isn't giving you what you want, get a different guru. G ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
