--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@...> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], iranitea <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > I think it may also be time for a reminder to readers > > > that, given their TM-critic agenda, one would think > > > Vaj and Barry and iranitea would heartily *approve* of > > > Robin, since he's the most radically anti-TM person > > > who's ever been on FFL.
I would not call Robin the most radically anti-TM person who's ever been on FFL. I think he got totally overwhelmed by and maybe even frightened by the powerful, heady, incredible and strange experiences he was having. He calls it Unity, altho I would guess it was not quite that but had a flavor of that and - given that he was totally devoted to meditation and MMY- he saw life and his new experiences thru that lens and labeled it Unity/Enlightenment. It did not help that apparently some people working with MMY went along with that for a while. Logically (altho who am I to know what is right) I think what was needed at that time was for MMY to help Robin deal with what was happening to him and to guide him back to a balanced and stable state, if at all possible. But people having difficulties rarely if ever got direction from Maharishi. Maybe MMY could not help him calm down and integrate what was going on. Maybe no one could, and Robin just had to go thru it before it ended. People do have experiences similar to those Robin has described, and they don't label it Unity because they never heard of the term. Robin could certainly speak for himself, but I don't see him as anti-TM in the same way, say, Vaj is . I See Robin as still wondering about, in awe of, missing the excitement and rush of seeming to know everything - but relieved to be more steady and himself. I can understand why he has fled anything Vedic or Indian and embraced Christianity as safer and more true for him. Amazing as they were, his possibly TM-induced experiences were cutting him off from his sanity and a normal life. So, from what I have seen, the TM critic agenda for most folks on FFL has to do with money, sex, feeling used or betrayed, discomfort with the politics of the organization, wondering about the validity of the lineage and the techniques. I don't think Robin cares about those issues. He just knows that if TM leads to the experience he calls Unity, then watch out, folks. The bliss and energy and aliveness and love for MMY were not, in the end, worth it. > > > > > > Why is it that they go after him for having been a TB > > > decades ago rather than congratulating him for having > > > seen the light and rejected it all, as they would any > > > other disillusioned former TMer who showed up here? > > > > > > It's really quite mysterious. > > > > I can't speak for Vaj and Barry here, but you force me > > another time to respond to you in a thread. I am NOT an > > anti-TMer. I am not anti Maharishi. > > I did not say you were either an anti-TMer or anti-Maharishi, > iranitea. Try reading what you're commenting on, eh? > > And no, I didn't "force" you to respond to me. It was entirely > your choice. > > <snip> > > I can only congratulate Xeno for the brilliant exposition he > > just gave to Robin. There is nothing to be added to what he > > just said. This is true wisdom as against some pseudo- > > intellectual imposition. I will never understand, how you > > could fall for this stupidity. > > <horselaugh> >
