--- In [email protected], "Jason" <jedi_spock@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- "Jason" <jedi_spock@> wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > > > He suddenly decided that catholicism is true. But still > > > > > wanted a certificate from MMY that he is in Unity which is > > > > > why he filed a suit. Sure from that POV he is still > > > > > dependent on TM and MMY. > > > > > > > > --- "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Uh, no, Jason. His conversion to Catholicism happened > > > > years later. > > > > > > > > I'm not positive, but I believe MIU brought a suit > > > > against Robin, and Robin countersued. Robin's suit > > > > was not filed to get "a certificate from MMY that he > > > > is in Unity." Whether MMY considered Robin > > > > enlightened was not the issue in Robin's suit; MMY's > > > > tape-recorded affidavit was a piece of evidence in > > > > the suit. > > > > > > > > Robin had fully expected MMY to support him against > > > > MIU and was astonished when he did not. And Robin > > > > wasn't asking for "a certificate"; he was asking for > > > > *certification*--i.e., via MMY's audiotaped > > > > affidavit--that he was enlightened and that MMY > > > > approved of Robin's modifications of MMY's teaching > > > > (including the TM-Sidhis sutras). > > > > > > --- "Jason" <jedi_spock@> wrote: > > > > > > The point is he wanted MMY to certify his 'enlightened > > > state'. > > > > Right. And so...? > > That's the whole point. I think Xeno or IraniTea or Salyawin > can elaborate on it.
No, they couldn't. Or if they could, they'd just be telling you what I go on to tell you below. > Why would an 'enlightened man' need certification from > another person or org? In this case, because Robin's authority to teach his modifications of MMY's programs was being challenged by MIU. So it would need to be on the legal record that MMY approved of what Robin was doing and that he had the credentials (i.e., enlightenment) to do it. Robin had no doubt he was enlightened, nor did his followers. He fully expected MMY to put his stamp of approval on his activities and credentials. MMY did not. Robin was astonished. He's said all this in his posts, Jason.
