--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason" <jedi_spock@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Jason" <jedi_spock@> wrote: > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > > > > > > I now get a feeling that he tries to hide his illogical > > > > > > points tucked inside inside his voluminious post and further > > > > > > tries to hide it behind rare bombastic words. > > > > > > > > > > > --- "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Did you have trouble understanding what he wrote that > > > > > you quote, Jason? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Robin Carlsen" <maskedzebra@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Maharishi posted something on FFL at, I say, at the > > > > > > > height of his powers and influence and prestige *we would > > > > > > > recognize that this poster—even if we didn't know who he > > > > > > > was was, in his discussion and analysis of enlightenment, > > > > > > > providing the most potent metaphysical subtext of anyone > > > > > > > posting on FFL*. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, then, I had better realize this, shouldn't I, else > > > > > > > my irony sensibiity has atrophied something serious since > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Oops, Jason, you didn't note that you made a big snip > > > > > > between the above two paragraphs. That's a no-no. > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Robin Carlsen" <maskedzebra@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But more than this, it is not the intelligence which > > > > > > > created the universe which has created this state of > > > > > > > consciousness; nor does the intelligence which created > > > > > > > the universe have anything to do with the actions of the > > > > > > > enlightened person I mean in the sense of being the > > > > > > > direct and specific cause of those actions, In this > > > > > > > sense the "cosmic" in cosmic consciousness is not cosmic > > > > > > > at all. It certainly is a metaphysical power, and > > > > > > > perhaps even is being controlled by very powerful > > > > > > > intelligences; but those intelligences would be > > > > > > > Maharishi's Vedic gods, or personal gods, or "impulses > > > > > > > of creative intelligence". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Jason" <jedi_spock@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > He contradicts himself again and again. He now states that > > > > > 'the intelligence which created the universe, has nothing to > > > > > do with the actions of an enlightened person.' > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > > > That isn't a contradiction, Jason. You may *disagree* > > > > with him, and that's fine. But he's made a clear > > > > distinction above between "the intelligence which > > > > created the universe" and the power or intelligences > > > > that control the enlightened person's actions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Jason" <jedi_spock@> wrote: > > > > > > Read what he wrote below. BTW, talking to you is like > > > talking to a bot. > > > > --- "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > If you only *paid attention*, Jason, you wouldn't get > > so confused. > > > > Below he's explaining *MMY's* definition of Unity > > Consciousness, and his experience of it while he was > > enlightened. He no longer believes in what MMY said > > about it; that's what he explained above. > > > > Get it now? > > But, he says 'it was very much his experience'. Line number > three below.
See line numbers two ad three of my paragraph above. And then read the sentence above that beginning "If you only *paid attention*..." > > > > --- "Robin Carlsen" <maskedzebra@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > By definition Unity Consciousness means the individual > > > > > intention for one's actions does not start with oneself. > > > > > It starts with cosmic intelligence. This was very much > > > > > my experience. So, unless cosmic intelligence decided to > > > > > make accomplishing the flying sidhi the criterion for > > > > > Unity Consciousness; that is, cosmic intelligence, in a > > > > > given moment decided to make someone fly through the > > > > > flying sidhi, the mere demand that one prove one's > > > > > enlightenment by being able to fly, well it is absurd. > > > > > Because it suggests that one's behaviour becomes subject > > > > > to the control and command of another person. Each and > > > > > every action of some one who is enlightened is > > > > > determined by cosmic intelligence, not individual > > > > > intention separate from this cosmic intelligence. > > >
