Dear Share, I think I was unclear in making my intent known to you in writing that second letter to you. I chose to address you, because of the receptivity and positivity that is part of your spiritual approach to persons and reality. But I was simply taking the opportunitythis had nothing to do with you personallyto explain how I felt that my own behaviour (when I came to Fairfield) vis-a-vis Maharishi and MIU was not some attempt to introduce a different teaching or technique, and therefore could notat least from my own point of viewbe used as an example of some form of spirituality other than and in some sense at variance with anything that Maharishi was teaching. Indeed I made it my objective to force Maharishi to commit himself to a judgment of the validity of the knowledge that came out of my enlightenment.
I had argued in my previous post (also addressed to you because of your 'charity'See Saint Paul) on behalf of the enforcers of Dome policies. Now to do this might seem unseemly, given how the officials at MIU reacted to my seminars in Fairfield back in 1982-83. I thought the readers at FFL would possibly make the assumption: Here is this guy defending Bevan and the actions of Dome officials and he himself became a renegade from the purity of the teaching, and tried to set himself up as a Guru against Maharishi. Whereas this was decidedly not my intention or belief, even though this was the deliberate judgment of the authorities at MIU. There are a lot of things I regret. If a student at MIU felt, in retrospect, they would have rather stayed away from me and completed their education at MIU, that would indeed constitute a source of concern for me. But what was opened up in their experience, and where most of these persons ended up, I doubt anyone who took their chances with me feels on balance they lost rather than gained from the experience. But this is a very complex issue. And I have no hard data to support this conclusion. Buck was making his case. I weighed in on the side of the authorities. This would seem bizarre given that I was considered at the time to be the heretic par excellence. But I never thought of opposing Maharishi in the least; I was confident I was doing his will, and only yearned to bring about a reconciliation with Bevan and the officials at MIU, something I knew could only happen through the expressed judgment of Maharishi himself. Shall I return to our big conversation, Share? You are walking that tightrope across Niagara Falls and it doesn't seem as if you are going to falland I see no safety harness. Pretty amazing feat there, Share, baby! Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote: > > Dear Robin, > Gosh, you don't have to explain yourself at all to me. I believe what you > say and I'm content to engage with you as you are now. I wasn't at MIU when > you were there. Of course I heard a few stories. And I've read some of > the emails here. Also my last X is a Canadian gov. What can I say? Your > life has been much more eventful than mine. Even your inner life. I'm > sorry if those events, inner and outer, caused you or others unnecessary > suffering. I would imagine that as a leader, you would regret causing a > student to lose something important to them. > > But it's all water under the bridge now. You sound somewhat at peace with > it all and I'm happy for you about that. I'm sure the world has need of > your gifts. It's never too late to redeem anything and or make amends for any > hurt. Or so I believe. But maybe I'm simply having an imperfect > hallucination (-: > Share > > > > ________________________________ > From: Robin Carlsen <maskedzebra@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:37 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices > > >  > Dear Share, > > I should just say that in the case of myself I thought I was *completing > Maharishi's Teaching*, that my enlightenment produced a context for > individual metaphysical drama which had not been anticipated before I went up > on that mountain in September 1976â"But for all that, *was an innocent as > TM*. Indeed, I felt that the form my enlightenment tookâ"in terms of this > theatre of individuation of the soulâ"was the fulfillment of the TM > experienceâ"the original one. Certainly when I began to act as a person in > Unity, my experience was that the whole universe was getting behind my > enlightenment project And I was very anxious, therefore, that Maharishi would > eventually endorse what I was doingâ"explicitly, formally. I never thought > of myself as deviating from the purity of the teaching. I thought I was > taking the next evolutionary step within the context of TM and Maharishi. It > didn't quite work out that way; but when persons were punishedâ"expelled from > MIUâ"for attending my seminars, I thought this was just the drama which > would precede the eventual joyful consummation. I was wrong in every sense, > of course. But I thought I should mention how I exempt myself from having > been any kind of interloper or foreign influence within the TM Movement. I > remained utterly devoted to Maharishi right up until I determined that my > enlightenment was a form of profound mystical deceitfulness, a perfect > hallucination. > > Robin > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > Hi Ann and Buck, > > > > > > > > > I'm baffled byàall this.àI was totally out of the Dome for 7 > > > years, 2003 to 2010.àDuring that time I openly participated in lots > > > of stuff in FF, including Waking Down in Mutuality for about 3 years.à> > > But I had no trouble getting back into the Dome.àNo interrogation > > > room, etc.àAlso through Amma's org, I've been having planetary pujas > > > done for a while now plus use her jyotishis.àMovement got too > > > expensive and wanted a person to supply family info also.àToo much of > > > a hassle.àAnd even when I was a grad student on campus, I was open > > > about participating in David Deida tantric workshops.àAgain no > > > interrogation room, no subtle threats, etc. > > > > > > > > > All I can figure is that they let me alone because I'm just a sidha, not > > > a gov.àBut I don't know for sure.àNow that I'm back in the Dome, > > > sometimes friends on campus aren't as friendly as they were.à> > > Sometimes that hurts.àBut I sort of understand.àAnd I have > > > friends in town.àTSR dontcha know.àTown Super Radiance.àAnd > > > jokingly means "taking seminars regularly."àOTOH, truth in jest, > > > etc.àà> > > Share in town and in Dome... > > > > Dear Share, > > > > My take on all this policing of persons who go outside of the spiritual > > resources sanctioned by the TM Movement is pretty simple. Those who devise > > and enforce these rules (which originated in Maharishi himself) are going > > by their first experience of what TM and Maharishi represented: This is The > > Way; there is no other way that compares to the TM-Maharishi way. > > > > TM is defined as the simplest and most natural technique to take one to the > > deepest level of one's very beingâ"there is no other practice which is > > defined mechanically and objectively such as to afford the most efficient > > way of transcendingâ"there are no competitors here. > > > > The most profound realization one has when one is made a teacher of TM by > > Maharishi, is: this is It. There isn't anything else. And if TM cannot do > > what it says it doesâ"take one to the level of pure consciousnessâ"then > > we are selling a product which does not do what we say it does. > > > > Any compromise on this policy of guarding "the purity of the teaching" will > > mean the gradual corruption of TM and the dilution of Maharishi's Teaching, > > That is one thing that Maharishi was able to do that no other teacher in > > our lifetime has been able to do: Make us experience that he was the very > > best, the only one, and that what he was giving to us was coming directly > > from reality or God or the source of creative intelligence. > > > > Any flexibility, reasonableness, tolerance here just makes no sense at > > allâ"unless the people at the top are giving up their claim to the > > exclusiveness of TM as being the most beautiful way to transcend that is > > available anywhere. I refer readers (who have done TM) to their first TM > > experience. How it happened; what the process was like; how they > > experienced the mantra working inside of them. The very miraculous > > innocenceâ"and profundityâ"of this experience signifies: No competition > > will be allowedâ"because what could produce an experience equal to the one > > you first had when you started TM? > > > > I don't say the policy is justified on the basis of TM being what Maharishi > > made us believe it was, and what our experiencesâ"at least for > > awhileâ"confirmed, because of course I don't think that TM and Maharishi > > have continued to get the grace and support which would indicate that > > reality and God still think they are It. But in terms of the truth of one's > > devotion to one's Master, and Maharishi brilliant and unchallengeable > > authority to persuade us of his preeminent position and status in > > Creationâ"and his gift to us in the form of his spiritual > > technologyâ"what the TMO is doing in being careful about vetting persons > > who meditate in the Dome is not only reasonable, it is entirely truthful to > > their conscience, their understanding of the will of Maharishi, and their > > own sense of what is the right thing to do. > > > > This behaviour on the part of those who wield this authority over > > meditators is irreproachable in my estimation. Of course if these persons > > believed that there was another path to God, to the Self, to enlightenment, > > then the enforcement of these policies would be subject to moral scrutiny. > > Inside the context of what they deem as truth and the means of not > > betraying the wishes of their Master, they are behaving entirely > > appropriatelyâ"There simply is no argument to be made against them > > whatsoever. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: awoelflebater <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:02 PM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices > > > > > > > > > à> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Om, waht oh. I may lose my Dome badge, again. I got called in by > > > > > > the chief inspector the other day over my religious activities with > > > > > > non-TM pundits. If it goes badly they'll take my Dome badge away, > > > > > > again. It is still in the balance but it is an interesting thing; > > > > > > they have these anti-religious practices paragraphs in the Dome > > > > > > meditation admission guidelines that are a snare. The paragraphs > > > > > > are part of a business plan to coerce people to use TM movement > > > > > > joytish astrology and yagya services more exclusively by using the > > > > > > dome admission as a punishment. I had an hour long interview in > > > > > > the Peace Palace the other day. Some committee that I'll not see > > > > > > will adjudicate my case. "We have something in our files, tell us > > > > > > about it." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do the TM inspectors [had a good laugh typing that] find out > > > > > you are using non-approved "services?" Is there a supergrass in > > > > > FF? And what the hell business do you think it is of theirs? > > > > > > > > > > Hope you tell them to stuff their stupid dome badge. Really, what > > > > > is the point of all this if this is the sort of "positivity" that > > > > > TM creates? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sal, how? The 'course office' works it like East German Secret Police > > > > Stasi doing case work. They work it all the time. Search local papers > > > > for leads, the internet, make interviews, hear conversations in the > > > > Domes or meal hall on campus or around, some people also feel it their > > > > duty to tell them things, and then they squeeze people. They make > > > > files and network the files. These are TM career people who are very > > > > good at what they do. These are apparatchiks who are unquestioningly > > > > loyal subordinates. For them it is about enforcing the guidelines. > > > > If they had better guidelines they would enforce them too. It is a lot > > > > like being confronted with that German officer investigator actor in > > > > Inglorious Bastards. > > > > http://voices.yahoo.com/inglorious-bastards-using-tarantinos-movie-teaching-5616344.html > > > > > > > > That's the course office and the system that set it up. Evidently it > > > > is the best we have to work with. > > > > > > > > > > Wow Buck, you put up with a lot in order to be able to meditate in the > > > Dome and operate within the confines of the TM secret police. I had no > > > idea. If any of this had been going on back in 1976-1980 I would have > > > been out of there, real fast. I guess what you gain is worth this kind of > > > terrible, freedom-squelching monitoring? Is this for real? I haven't been > > > paying attention or following any of this at FFL so I am a bit shocked > > > now that I actually read one of these posts. I guess you need the > > > collective group energy that the dome provides when you do your siddhis? > > > You couldn't just sort of hop around in your own home and essentially be > > > flipping these Nazi's a bird at the same time as you burn your dome > > > badge? Jeezuz, I would love to be in Fairfield just to give these > > > assholes a run for their money. I could think of all sorts of fun > > > scenarios because, frankly, I wouldn't give a damn and just the > > > opportunity to raise a couple of hackles on these guy's > backs > > > would be worth the price of admission. Good luck with that. But > > > remember, certain things are only worth so much boot licking. > > > > > >
