Welcome back Judy. It just hasn't been the same without you. FFL has been like a bowl of chili without the chili powder and beans.
Plus, some of the horses got out of the corral while you were gone and now I see you are saddled up and ready to bring 'em on home. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn <emilymae.reyn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > If this is such a priority and they really believe what > > > > they are saying, why don't they just bring in meditators > > > > from other countries to reach the goal? Are there not > > > > 2000 flyers in the entire world? In the name of global > > > > peace, I would think that many of the idealistic and > > > > altruistic nature would volunteer even to pick up and move. > > > > > > They have imported about 1,000 Vedic PUndits, and pay > > > Americans $800/month to participate full time (8 hours/day > > > 7 days/week) for at least a month. > > > > > > I'd say they are pretty serious. > > > > Just so that Emily is not swayed by this disinformation, > > Of course, it isn't "disinformation." It's a perspective > that differs from Barry's. > > (Note that Barry is the one who complains loudly that his > perspectives are called "lies" by those with different > perspectives. That's actually a fantasy of his--it doesn't > happen--but we can see where it originates: in his own > propensity to do exactly what he complains about.) > > The difference in perspective hinges on the fact that the > TMO is very heavily involved both in bringing in the > pundits from India and in Howard Settle's subsidy program > for full-time dome participants. The funding itself comes > from donations, but neither project could be carried out > if the TMO weren't quite serious about achieving the > purportedly critical dome numbers. > > Of course, it isn't the least bit unusual for a well- > endowed organization with a mission to ask for donations > to fund specific projects. Nobody with any sense looks > askance at that approach. > > > > > > > > > what she means by "they" and what Lawson means by "they" > > are completely different. I suspect that by "they" Emily > > meant the TM organization per se, the entity that has > > been estimated by The Illustrated Weekly of India to have > > a net worth of 3.5 billion dollars. Given that amount of > > capital, and given the importance the organization > > *claims* to place on getting large numbers of Yogic > > Flyers together to do their thang for world peace, her > > proposal seems very logical -- "Put your money where > > your mouth is." > > > > *In constrast*, what Lawson is talking about are two > > programs paid for entirely by donations begged or demanded > > from TMers. The program that pays for people to buttbounce > > full-time for $800 per month was paid for *entirely* by > > one wealthy TMer. The pundits were similarly funded by > > donations from well-meaning (and yes, idealistic) TMers. > > > > As far as I know, the TM organization itself, sitting on > > top of all that wealth, *has not spent a penny of its > > own money* to achieve its own goals. > > > > This is a policy that goes back to the very beginnings of > > the TM movement. Maharishi was almost *never* willing to > > spend his own money on his own projects. He always found > > a way to beg the money for them from his followers, or > > in his worst moments *extort* the money for them. (What > > else would you call the frantic pleas for money some > > time before he died in which he declared outright that > > the world would end if it wasn't raised.) > > > > I think Emily has a point. If the TMO 1) actually believed > > that its programs could bring about world peace, and 2) > > were sitting on top of sufficient financial assets to put > > those beliefs to the test, wouldn't their failure to do > > so paint them as hypocritical at the very least, and > > downright mercenary at worst? > > > > Lawson knows all this. He was taking advantage of Emily > > *not* knowing it to spin things in such a way as to make > > it seem as if the TM organization *itself* paid for the > > efforts he listed. That isn't true, and has never been. > > The TMO does *NOT* pay for these things; the same well- > > intentioned suckers who have been paying for Maharishi's > > dreams since the beginning of the movement paid for them. > > >