Welcome back Judy. It just hasn't been the same without you. FFL has been like 
a bowl of chili without the chili powder and beans. 

Plus, some of the horses got out of the corral while you were gone and now I 
see you are saddled up and ready to bring 'em on home.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn <emilymae.reyn@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If this is such a priority and they really believe what 
> > > > they are saying, why don't they just bring in meditators 
> > > > from other countries to reach the goal? Are there not 
> > > > 2000 flyers in the entire world? In the name of global 
> > > > peace, I would think that many of the idealistic and 
> > > > altruistic nature would volunteer even to pick up and move.
> > > 
> > > They have imported about 1,000 Vedic PUndits, and pay 
> > > Americans $800/month to participate full time (8 hours/day 
> > > 7 days/week) for at least a month.
> > > 
> > > I'd say they are pretty serious.
> > 
> > Just so that Emily is not swayed by this disinformation,
> 
> Of course, it isn't "disinformation." It's a perspective
> that differs from Barry's.
> 
> (Note that Barry is the one who complains loudly that his
> perspectives are called "lies" by those with different
> perspectives. That's actually a fantasy of his--it doesn't
> happen--but we can see where it originates: in his own
> propensity to do exactly what he complains about.)
> 
> The difference in perspective hinges on the fact that the
> TMO is very heavily involved both in bringing in the
> pundits from India and in Howard Settle's subsidy program
> for full-time dome participants. The funding itself comes
> from donations, but neither project could be carried out
> if the TMO weren't quite serious about achieving the
> purportedly critical dome numbers.
> 
> Of course, it isn't the least bit unusual for a well-
> endowed organization with a mission to ask for donations
> to fund specific projects. Nobody with any sense looks
> askance at that approach.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > what she means by "they" and what Lawson means by "they"
> > are completely different. I suspect that by "they" Emily
> > meant the TM organization per se, the entity that has 
> > been estimated by The Illustrated Weekly of India to have
> > a net worth of 3.5 billion dollars. Given that amount of 
> > capital, and given the importance the organization 
> > *claims* to place on getting large numbers of Yogic 
> > Flyers together to do their thang for world peace, her 
> > proposal seems very logical -- "Put your money where 
> > your mouth is."
> > 
> > *In constrast*, what Lawson is talking about are two
> > programs paid for entirely by donations begged or demanded
> > from TMers. The program that pays for people to buttbounce
> > full-time for $800 per month was paid for *entirely* by
> > one wealthy TMer. The pundits were similarly funded by
> > donations from well-meaning (and yes, idealistic) TMers.
> > 
> > As far as I know, the TM organization itself, sitting on
> > top of all that wealth, *has not spent a penny of its
> > own money* to achieve its own goals. 
> > 
> > This is a policy that goes back to the very beginnings of
> > the TM movement. Maharishi was almost *never* willing to
> > spend his own money on his own projects. He always found
> > a way to beg the money for them from his followers, or
> > in his worst moments *extort* the money for them. (What
> > else would you call the frantic pleas for money some
> > time before he died in which he declared outright that
> > the world would end if it wasn't raised.)
> > 
> > I think Emily has a point. If the TMO 1) actually believed
> > that its programs could bring about world peace, and 2) 
> > were sitting on top of sufficient financial assets to put 
> > those beliefs to the test, wouldn't their failure to do
> > so paint them as hypocritical at the very least, and 
> > downright mercenary at worst?
> > 
> > Lawson knows all this. He was taking advantage of Emily
> > *not* knowing it to spin things in such a way as to make
> > it seem as if the TM organization *itself* paid for the
> > efforts he listed. That isn't true, and has never been.
> > The TMO does *NOT* pay for these things; the same well-
> > intentioned suckers who have been paying for Maharishi's
> > dreams since the beginning of the movement paid for them.
> >
>


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