--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>

That was a bit of a revelation and a cogent analysis of why we can't get there 
from here between some posters.  Since I know the hypothetical guy you were 
imagining...it also explains why it can be fun to go point by point to 
stimulate a different part of my brain.  That was largely what doing philosophy 
involved and I enjoy that in a different way from creative writing.

Drilling deeper into this thoery I can also see how being attacked here 
stimulates a pseudo fear mechanism that prompts and urgency of response.  
Combined with things that a reader feels are inaccurate it creates a sturdy 
chain to pull and get pulled by.  That may be a case for not posting in a place 
where a lot of that goes on.  It is hard to resist getting pulled into that 
cycle, especially when not much more of that writing is going on. 

I used to think about some of the back and forth stuff about Maharishi's 
philosophy here as more of the first thing, the stimulation of the close 
attention part of my brain.  As it has drifted further and further from any 
content, it has become less and less satisfying in that regard, so I switch to 
the creative but negative angle creating images of trollish scenes to keep me 
interested in writing.

This really gives me a lot to think about, thanks for that Barry.  I would like 
to become a bit more conscious of my outcomes here and ultimately if being here 
is where my real outcomes are likely to get met in becoming the kind of writer 
I want to be.


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> >
> > Judy, your practice of replying sentence by sentence 
> > distorts the meaning of my words and overshadows the 
> > import of my complete thought as contained in the 
> > whole paragraph.
> 
> Share, trying to stay out of the conflict but 
> tripping on what you said above, I thought I
> should draw your attention to a post I made
> here recently entitled "This is your brain on 
> reading for fun...this is it on reading seriously." 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/320510
> 
> It details some fascinating research being done
> on people to determine what is going on in their
> brains when they read either 1) for pleasure, the
> sheer enjoyment of it, or 2) for work, what is
> called "close reading," as if they have to report
> on what they're reading later in an essay about it. 
> The researchers, watching the brains of people 
> through an MRI scanner as they read, have discovered 
> that very different parts of the brain are being 
> used, depending on whether one is reading for 
> pleasure, or doing "close reading."
> 
> Riffing on what you say above, is it possible 
> that a certain person is using different parts
> of their brain when reading your posts than you
> used when writing them?
> 
> I find this an interesting question when applied
> to this forum. "Different strokes for different
> folks" turns out to be true even in the brain,
> and at different times, depending on the *intent*
> with which we read. Two people could read the
> same piece of literature -- in the experiments,
> passages from Jane Austen -- and get two very
> different things from them. That's not a surprise,
> of course, chances are we *all* would see the
> same passages slightly differently. *However*,
> the new information from these studies is that
> the *same* person could view and interpret 
> these passages completely differently, depend-
> ing on how they're reading them -- for pleasure,
> or "for work."
> 
> Taking a profession completely at random, consider
> the case of a professional editor. Their day job
> is parsing other people's writing, *looking for
> nits to pick*. The person is, as you suggest, 
> parsing word by word, sentence by sentence, *look-
> ing for errors or lapses in grammar or logic*.
> And to such a person, a single typo or misspelling
> could render an entire work unworthy of publication,
> and thus of being taken seriously.
> 
> Now consider another random profession, say a 
> person who makes their living as a musician and
> an educator. Such a person might have said many
> times that they read the posts on FFL -- and
> write their own -- for pleasure. They do *not*
> tend to parse them carefully, looking for things
> "not right" in them; instead they might be looking
> for things to enjoy. Which is the objective, after 
> all, of "reading for pleasure."
> 
> These two types of people, conditioned by years
> of habit to read either for pleasure or for work,
> might be using entirely different parts of their
> brains while reading, and as a result might have 
> a tendency to react to what you write completely
> differently.
> 
> Now make a mental leap with me beyond the context
> of the experiments so far and to the next level.
> If humans use different parts of their brains
> when either reading for pleasure or reading more
> seriously, "close reading," is it possible that
> they do the exact same thing when writing?
> 
> The musician in my completely random example, for
> example, might have gone on record many times as
> saying that he writes for pleasure, for the sheer
> fun of writing and for the joy of seeing one's
> ideas "come together" as a result of the very
> act of writing. I'm like that, and I intuit 
> that you might be, too. 
> 
> Someone else might tend to bring the same "close
> reading" brain functioning they practice as a 
> reader to their writing, and tend to take the 
> writing more seriously, and less as an opportunity 
> to have fun. They might, in fact, be practicing 
> "close writing." If this were the case, would it 
> not be likely that they are using an entirely 
> different mode of brain functioning when writing 
> than the person who is writing for the pleasure 
> of it?
> 
> Just a few random thoughts, written for the
> pleasure of writing them. Parse them as you will,
> and do with them what you will, using whatever
> parts of your brain you tend to use when doing
> that sorta stuff.  :-)
>


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