Yourself maybe?
________________________________ From: Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits I really love what Alex says about WD gazing. AND for me it felt too top down when it was teachers and mentors being the gazers and everyone else being the gazees. It felt more right to me when everyone gazed with everyone else. Probably my authority issues involved. Lots of people liked the gazing a lot. I also know of shaktipat given by touch and have experienced it here in FF. Besides TM, long list and the word impressed is not at all the right word: I am forever grateful to the lineage of Kundalini Care in Knoxville, especially the 2 living exponents Shivarpita and Swamiji; I'm grateful to Ammachi and Mother Meera and Kurnamayi; I love Kwan Yin and Krishna Das' guru but have only seen pictures of them; I have huge respect for David Deida and John Douglas and John Newton and his teacher Howard Wills; I go deep with the writing of Adyashanti and Francis Lucille; and with the inquiry of Lester Levenson and Byron Katie; I love gazing with Braco and doing Spring Forest Qigong with Master Chunyi Lin. I've probably forgotten somebody (-: ________________________________ From: Bhairitu <noozg...@sbcglobal.net> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits In my tradition shaktipat is given by touch. A lot of other traditions do it this way. Did you know that Maharishi also gave shaktipat when he first taught meditation? What non-TM people have you been impressed by? On 10/16/2012 02:06 PM, Share Long wrote: > Silently making eye contact and I do remember the word shakitpat being used a > few times. In the beginning only teachers and mentors gazed with others. > Now everyone gazes with everyone. Since I didn't like it, I'm probably not > the best to describe its benefits. > > How is shaktipat given in your tradition? > > > guy at the gas station=Buddha At the Gas Pump? > > Impressed? Most recently I have been impressed by Dr. Nader because he seems > brilliant AND compassionate AND down to earth. He is leading a very human > life with a wife and children and a medical practice. > > > > ________________________________ > From: Bhairitu <noozg...@sbcglobal.net> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 2:38 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits > > > > What is "the gazing"? I've been taught to give shaktipat by my tantra > guru but it doesn't involve any "gazing." Sometimes I wonder if these > people had any authentic teacher or just some charlatan from India. > There are probably more than a few Indians in the US who have learned > tantra and some are astrologers and others are quiet maybe helping > someone if they ask. And then there is the guy at the gas station who > decided to call himself a Swami for some extra money. > > It's a good thing to spend a few months testing a teacher and boning up > on the field through books such as Dr. Robert Svoboda's excellent > trilogy (on what it is like to be a westerner learning from an authentic > tantric). > > I would also be interested in what kind of things "impress" people? > > On 10/16/2012 10:55 AM, Share Long wrote: >> laughing because different strokes, etc. I rarely liked the gazing. OTOH, >> I wasn't comfortable attending and NOT participating in gazing. And they >> don't like people coming late to avoid the gazing... >> >> >> WDM gave me a steady spiritual family when I first left campus. I'll always >> be grateful for that. Even so, I was never looking for another theory of >> consciounsess, etc. so I didn't mind their lack of that. And I do think the >> whole mutuality angle is an important one that very few others discuss. >> >> >> Didn't go last night but am busting with curiosity about it (-: >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Alex Stanley <j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com> >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:49 PM >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saniel Bonder in Fairfield visits >> >> >> >> >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <feste37@...> wrote: >>> >>> And it cost $20 too. I see Bonder as a guy with a few ideas, which >>> may or may not be helpful to some people. >> Waking Down is a small, niche path that is certainly not for everyone. >> >>> I have heard him twice, and can't say I have been overwhelmingly >>> impressed. >> I wasn't at all impressed the first time I went to see him and Linda at the >> FF library, about 10 years ago. But, on his next trip to FF, he was here >> with Pascal Salesses, a WD teacher who had just moved to FF, and I felt a >> connection with her. I'm grateful that Saniel started WD, but I've always >> connected better with some of the other teachers. And, I can't even begin to >> get through his books. For me, the WD experience had nothing to do with >> ideas; it was all about the gazing. >> >> >> > >
