--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > >  
> > > > > In a message dated 9/1/05 4:36:10 P.M. Central Daylight 
> Time,  
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Again:  With projects designed to prevent or mitigate
> > > > > the effects of a natural  disaster, it is CHEAPER FOR
> > > > > THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to pay for the projects  than it
> > > > > is to PAY FOR THE RELIEF EFFORT AND THE RECONSTRUCTION.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Not  to mention, in this case, having to deal with the
> > > > > disruption in the oil  supply.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Major natural disasters affect the entire country,
> > > > > not just  the immediate areas where they happen.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It is VERY MUCH IN THE  GOVERNMENT'S INTEREST to fund
> > > > > such projects.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is not real  complicated to understand.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Again the federal government did fund the project. It 
never  
> > > > intended to fund 
> > > > > it 100%. And when federal funding was cut by 44% it was up 
> to  
> > > the 
> > > > state and 
> > > > > local governments to make up the difference and they could 
> > have,  
> > > > they chose 
> > > > > not to. What you are proposing is the city and state 
refuse 
> to 
> > > > take  any 
> > > > > responsibility for their own protection and demand the 
> federal 
> > > > government do  it all 
> > > > > and if they don't we'll make you pay for the mess should 
one 
> > > > occur.  That's 
> > > > > called blackmail. It's like a person holding a gun to his 
> head 
> > > > demanding  
> > > > > favors.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Why was it that after 9-11 Rudy Giuliani became known 
> > as "America's 
> > > > Mayor"?  I think it's because, first and foremost, it is the 
> > local 
> > > > officials who must take responsibility for disasters.  And 
then 
> > > > there was Pataki on the scene as well.  Certainly, Bush 
entered 
> > the 
> > > > scene and gave moral support as well as federal funds and, 
of 
> > > > course, because the attack was from the air, the federal Air 
> > Force 
> > > > got involved and air traffic stopped for several days...but 
my
> > > > image is of the local and state officials taking charge and 
> > running 
> > > > the show.
> > > > 
> > > > Certainly, things are NOT being run properly and, yes, it is 
> > fair 
> > > > and proper to assign blame.  But why the apparent focus on 
the 
> > Feds?
> > > 
> > > Do you suppose part of it was that after 9/11, except
> > > for the immediate area of the disaster, the city's
> > > infrastructure was still working just fine and we
> > > didn't *need* the feds to come in?
> > 
> > All bridges to the city closed off?  Much of telephone
> > communication cut off?  Roads clogged?  Sorry, I don't think 
that 
> > is indicative of "infrastructure working just fine".
> 
> Well, actually what it's indicative of is that
> you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
> 
> Phone service was just fine everywhere but in the
> immediate area.






No, it wasn't.

My brother lives in Brooklyn and it took me 3 days to contact him.  
I finally got him on cell phone.  Brooklyn isn't in Manhattan.

Yes, I was able to contact a friend of his who lives in Manhattan 
but that took me 24 hours.







>  TV and radio stations affected by
> the disaster quickly found other ways to transmit.
> Electricity was still on and water still running
> all over New York except in the immediate area.
> There were no shortages of food or any other supplies.
> Hospitals weren't affected.  Mail service wasn't
> interrupted except to and from the immediate area.
> 
> The bridges were closed only temporarily, I believe
> only the first day.  Roads weren't "clogged" any
> more than they usually are.
> 
> As I said, New York's infrastructure, in stark
> contrast to that of New Orleans, was in working
> order *except* for the immediate area of the
> disaster.  Most people's lives weren't affected
> at all, except psychologically.
> 
> In other words, bad as it was, it was so different
> from New Orleans that your attempted comparison is
> just ludicrous.
> 
> > Regardless, it is obvious that the disaster relief in NOLA is 
NOT 
> > working right. Should Big Brother in Washington be the one 
> > responsible?  
> > 
> > I wonder whether if it were terrorists who blew up the 3 or 4 
levee 
> > sections that appear to be the cause of all the flooding whether 
it 
> > would be the Feds who would everyone would be blaming?
> 
> I imagine that if the feds' response was anything
> like what it has been in New Orleans, everybody
> would be blaming them for an incompetent relief
> effort, yes, indeedy.




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