--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From a friend:
> 
> My friend knows Joques well enough so that he called him on a number of
> ocasions. I saw Joques there at Guru Purnima. To be more acurate, he
still
> lives in MMY's ashram, in house number 7, along with his wife and
daughter.
> 
> There are lots of rumors going around about Joques. I was on PK in
Lelystadt
> and there was Joques. The techs told me he was giving diksha (also
spelled
> deeksha). They said it was good. maybe about half the people in
Lelystaddt
> took diksha, and about 22 people or more from Lelystadt went to
india for
> the 21 day course
> 
> My friend was receiveing all sorts of info so he called Joques and
asked-
> hey I hear you are no longer in the movement. Joques responded that
he just
> talked to MMY the other day. Joques voluntarily gave up his post,
acording
> to what he told my friend. He told MMY all about Kalki and MMY aparantly
> said he is fully aware of what is going on there. Joques suppsedly said
> Kalki offered all that he knows to MMY- MMY responded that now we
have  our
> program for peace palaces.
> 
This is interesting. I would think MMY would want to join forces with
this group. It would be a win win situation for both. 

> Jacques is also on a video for Kalkis group - the head tech at Lelystadt
> showed it to me. Joques was saying that  a friend called him and
said - you
> know, instead of going throough 30-40 years of sadana, you can get
instant
> Enlightenment - this sort of thing
> 
I would think that a certain of sadana would be necessary in order to
achieve permananent awakening. I've been reading the experiences folks
have been having at livinginjoy.com. Here's one that may be of
interest to our members at FFL:

http://www.livinginjoy.com/en/exp/2829

also you might want to checkout the experiences of one of the teachers:

http://www.livinginjoy.com/en/library/170

Start from the bottom and work you way up. The diksha is something
that may help long term meditators to awaken. 

Peace,
Marc

> So, this is the sentiment that Joques was presenting in the video.
also in
> the video was David Morgen.
> 
> I would think just as MMY describes how children want to know everyting,
> many in the movement will want to have a first hand experiece with
Kalki. My
> friend said half the place was loaded with tm ers  but I think that is
> probably an exageration. excuse spelling errors, I dont type as fast
as you.





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