What's this Living in Joy scene all about? Anybody here done this?

Thanks.

 - Patrick Gillam

--- In [email protected], medwards520 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
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In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From a 
friend:

>> My friend knows Joques well enough so that he called him on a number of 
>> ocasions. I saw Joques there at Guru Purnima. To be more acurate, he still 
>> lives in MMY's ashram, in house number 7, along with his wife and daughter.
>> 
>> There are lots of rumors going around about Joques. I was on PK in Lelystadt 
>> and there was Joques. The techs told me he was giving diksha (also spelled 
>> deeksha). They said it was good. maybe about half the people in Lelystaddt 
>> took diksha, and about 22 people or more from Lelystadt went to india for 
>> the 
>> 21 day course
>> 
>> My friend was receiveing all sorts of info so he called Joques and asked- 
>> hey 
>> I hear you are no longer in the movement. Joques responded that he just 
>> talked to MMY the other day. Joques voluntarily gave up his post, acording 
>> to 
>> what he told my friend. He told MMY all about Kalki and MMY aparantly said 
>> he 
>> is fully aware of what is going on there. Joques suppsedly said Kalki 
>> offered 
>> all that he knows to MMY- MMY responded that now we have  our program for 
>> peace palaces.
>> 
> This is interesting. I would think MMY would want to join forces with this 
> group. It would be a win win situation for both.
> 
>> Jacques is also on a video for Kalkis group - the head tech at Lelystadt 
>> showed it to me. Joques was saying that  a friend called him and said - you 
>> know, instead of going throough 30-40 years of sadana, you can get instant 
>> Enlightenment - this sort of thing
>> 
> I would think that a certain of sadana would be necessary in order to achieve 
> permananent awakening. I've been reading the experiences folks have been 
> having at livinginjoy.com. Here's one that may be of interest to our members 
> at FFL:
> 
> http://www.livinginjoy.com/en/exp/2829
> 
> also you might want to checkout the experiences of one of the teachers:
> 
> http://www.livinginjoy.com/en/library/170
> 
> Start from the bottom and work you way up. The diksha is something that may 
> help long term meditators to awaken.
> 
> Peace, Marc
> 
>> So, this is the sentiment that Joques was presenting in the video. also in 
>> the video was David Morgen.
>> 
>> I would think just as MMY describes how children want to know everyting, 
>> many 
>> in the movement will want to have a first hand experiece with Kalki. My 
>> friend said half the place was loaded with tm ers  but I think that is 
>> probably an exageration. excuse spelling errors, I dont type as fast as you.




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