This is a dialog that is from a very old thread on AMT https://groups.google.com/group/alt.meditation.transcendental/browse_thread/thread/5c398dd9868e264e/f18a119c907c5ad0?hl=de&lnk=gst&q=warning+light#f18a119c907c5ad0 There are at least 3 of the posters here now. Interesting, as our mutual relationship was quite different then. You can see that I am friendly with Barry AND Judy at the time, but on this issue happen to agree more with Barry. Interesting also, because I can see in it a pattern that becomes even more clear now, after about 10 years, which is the pattern of AVOIDANCE I can see with a certain poster here. Here is my summary:
Shmendrik: I recently attented a lectcher by a great spiritual master who came into the hall with this beaming smiling look on his face (which he had obviusly practised in front of a miror) sat down and right off said we were already enlightened so I got up intending to leave thinking that was the end but noticed every body else just kept sitting there so I sat back down. It reminds me of when I was taking a airplane flight and we had to land becase of a malfuncton but after they said the plane was fine it was just the malfuntion indicater that was malfunctioning you see? there was nothing wrong wiht the plane. Its like that with us isn;'t it? it's just this warning light on our dashboard keeps coming on saying thers something wrong but its only something wronf with the warning light . Judy: Right, Melvin, but you have to fix the warning light. Shmendrik: why? Judy: Beeeeeecoz it says there's something wrong when there ain't. You could also disable it, or have it removed. Shmendrik: The mere ideas: 'fix', 'disable' or 'remove' ensure that the warning light stays on. It works so totally counter-intuitively that any and all strategies to fix it, cause it to stay on. To do anything is to fail. To do nothing is to fail. Me: Judy, I think the 'warning light' here is a symbol of the mind not being satisfied with what is. The warning light is constantly stirring up the mind, and is therefore the real problem. The warning light is an inbuilt tendency of the mind, to always want something, to actually project the Self out into the future. To fix the warning light would not really help, because its rather just adding to this mental tendency. Wanting to fix itself is the real problem. But thats of course not so easy. IOW we always want a remedy. The whole New Age is built on this, to get a quick fix. But if someone says, there are no remedies, you will say, that doesn't help me, I want a remedy. In this way, one stays in a loop. Why not just try to live a normal life, and not get anywhere spiritually specifically? I mean its okay, to meditate, and do all that, because its relaxing and enjoyable. But as it is, we built a whole world of expectations on it. We don't just simply live, no we are 'meditators', 'spiritual' etc. Just imagine you are enlightened, and there is nothing left to do anymore. What would you do?
