What do you expect him to say publicly? He said whatever he felt would get people flocking to him to keep the dollars rolling in. Curtis, Robin, Vaj and Barry's current state of belief or point of view of Maha and the Movement have nothing to do with the experiences the had, what they saw or heard when with Maharishi.
The difference is their point of view. As an example when Barry mentioned his watching Maha ask an initiator to take money in a suitcase across international borders (which many of you doubt ever happened) he said AT THE TIME he felt what the TM Movement was doing was so important and valuable he was willing to overlook what he was seeing for, in essence, the greater good. He no longer feels this way. If Curtis had conversation with the monks he knew in the old days and they told him certain things, then they did, plain and simple. What happened happened, what Maharishi said and did was what he said and did. Its all in the perception of events and actions and words. You seem to feel that anyone who is not a Maharishi supporter is wrong wrong wrong and therefore their point of view is invalid and that somehow means that the events they experienced, witnessed and heard never actually happened. You feel that no matter what, MAharishi was great and wonderful and therefore everything he said did and thought was 100% supported by the laws of nature, and were actually Cosmic thoughts, words and actions. The problem with this point of view, is that many of his deeds and words can't be defended - they are too anomalous as the speech and actions of someone who is supposed to be enlightened, unless you use the old saw of "Well, we can't understand the thoughts and actions of an enlightened man in our unenlightened state of awareness." This is the same baloney David Lynch used in trying to calm the agitated German audience in the now famous Raja Emmanuel sticking his big raja hoof in his own mouth by mentioning Hitler's name in the speech he was giving about invincible Germany. The versions of that video still on the Net are edited ones - I saw the unedited full version right after it was posted. When Lynch got up to do damage control, he actually said that Emmanuel had raja training and that we could not understand the subtle awareness and thinking of someone who has had such special training. I couldn't believe at the time that he was making things so much worse with espousing such elitist baloney. If however one comes to the belief that Maharishi was intelligent, a great orator, had great, even tremendous personal energy and charisma that was being orchestrated by his unenlightened ego and he used his rather extensive knowledge to create an organization designed to keep him supplied with huge amounts of money, elevate him to god like status and keep him supplied with yes men to do his bidding and plenty of women for sex, then everything he ever did and said makes sense without having to make excuses for him. I don't hate Maha, but I have no illusions about him either. He was a man who did what most men do. The reason so many people do hate him is that he actually did have an opportunity to create a Movement that could truly have changed the world if the focus had remained on teaching meditation and had that been coupled with numerous small centers that were actually supported by the Movement rather than the other way around and some sort of community service outreach where the meditators actually went out in the community and did "good works" on a practical hands on level. Instead the Movement became increasingly focused on pay attention to me! I am the Big Cheese! Pay attention to me and pay me. that was it. So its understandable that some would have anger over a very large carrot of personal and global peace and happiness that was derailed by the lust for personal gratification. Of course you may lay all this off to my own dislike for M. ________________________________ From: nablusoss1008 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 3:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: And so this is Christmas --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote: > > Wow - wonder who's point of view is the true one? Consider this; Curtis is the biggest Maharishi-hater ever to have graced this forum. The level of hate is so intense that even The Turq and Vaj becomes mere amateurs in comparison. If you want to know what Maharishi felt about Christianity all you have to do is to see the video below. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIWqJ8tJ8JU > > > > > ________________________________ > From: nablusoss1008 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2012 6:28 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: And so this is Christmas > > > Â > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <feste37@> wrote: > > > > If MMY did have a negative view of Christianity it was because of what he > > saw as its emphasis on suffering, which was directly contrary to his > > message that life is bliss. In that sense he had a disagreement with the > > interpreters of Christianity down through the ages, not with the founder > > himself. In an interview with a Swiss journalist in Majorca on November 23, > > 1971, Maharishi said, "I love Christ very much." He also said in the same > > interview, "TM is a friend of Christianity because it takes awareness to > > the field that Christ wanted everyone to enjoy." Then he added,"No > > Christian should suffer; it is not necessary. It is not good to propagate > > suffering in the name of Christ." He also used to refer to Christ as "Lord > > Christ." > > Maharishi on Christianity: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIWqJ8tJ8JU >
