--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...> 
wrote:
>
> Wow that poster in NYC proved it really IS the Age of Enlightenment.  Thanks 
> for posting that.
> 
> I just finished a book I've been chewing on for a while called "What Makes 
> the Brain Happy and Why You Should Do the Opposite".  Among our cognitive 
> biases is our very strong unconscious one to assign a conscious agency behind 
> random events.  Some neuro scientists believe it is from the evolutionary 
> advantage of always assuming a twig snap is a tiger cuz if you are wrong, so 
> what, but if you are right...
> 
> We do it automatically telling ourselves an instant story to explain that 
> events not only had meaning, but that they were directed by an outside 
> conscious agency.  It is one of the reasons religious explanation feels so 
> right to people.  Deeply right.  Irrefutably right. Just so damn right!
> 
> But in studying the specific ways that we have cognitive gaps and biases we 
> can begin to transcend our predisposition for taking the stories we create 
> seriously without viewing them in a more artistic light. 
> 
> I am a fan of the mythology of Christmas with its images in the same 
> nostalgic way I enjoy It's A Wonderful Life each year.  When it gets weird is 
> when a beautiful artistic myth is taken to be a factual truth about ultimate 
> reality.  It wasn't built for that, which is why it is so easy to satirize.
> 
> Speaking of that I was considering how consensual the whole Holy Ghost 
> hook-up was back in the day...I mean if a boss comes on to an employee we cry 
> foul and bust him for coercion. I think the whole Mary story is ripe for a 
> feminist retelling as a tragedy. What choice did she really have when the 
> creepy uncle of the Triune God made a play for her?  Did he during what must 
> have been a fairly clumsy seduction remind her of what he did to the 
> dinosaurs, or was it like the greatest Justin Bieber concert display but in 
> the end he takes her back to the dressing room?  Did he at least let her 
> finish or was it just a typical wham bam thank you mam?  Did she feel obliged 
> to fake it to sooth his monstrous ego. "Oh baby, that was divine!"

Now if that isn't just the juiciest wiggling worm that was ever put on a fish 
hook and left to dangle out there I don't know what is. And you know he'll bite 
too, don't you?
> 
> These are the questions that swirl around my head as I gaze on my nativity.  
> Did Mary know what he son was headed for when she signed up her uterus for 
> this project, or was it presented like a Hollywood script with a lot of pages 
> at the end with TBD at the top?  Did her youth and inexperience, her cultural 
> deference to men limit her ability to ask how it all ends before she signed 
> on?  What if she had told him she had a headache that night, would he have 
> been a gentleman?

Gosh Curtis, you are just loving this wayyy too much. Aren't you glad Christmas 
has given you such a ripe opportunity to go to town like this?
> 
> And having been around a few babies in my time, when Mary changed his diaper 
> did even the Oxen rear up their heads and lumber out of the manger grunting 
> "damn that holy guacamole is nasty!" 

Over the top now Curtis. You are becoming much clearer to me, after this little 
observational and colorful post, and we aren't even having a discussion. We 
don't need to, you're letting it all hang out.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues"
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues"
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ME: Let me stop you there.  Can you name a single person
> > > > > who could be expected to react in horror from a satiric
> > > > > piece on Christianity here?  Name one pearl-clutcher, to
> > > > > use you apt image. A single person whose identification
> > > > > with the ideas contained in the myths of Christianity,
> > > > > is so complete that anything I wrote could be expected
> > > > > to react in the way your are trying to project here.  One.
> > > >
> > > > I think the only such easily-offended and uptight
> > > > person is herself, Curtis. What a bowling ball-
> > > > sized burr she had up her ass today, trying to
> > > > "get" her perceived enemies.
> > > >
> > > > She was so gone that she couldn't even get that
> > > > my appreciation for the Brahma Shave poems them-
> > > > selves was genuine and that I liked them, and
> > > > that my response to her "don't rip off my artwork"
> > > > post was a joke, intended to push her buttons.
> > > > Instead, all that happened was that she got her
> > > > buttons pushed. In a very real sense, Raunchy is
> > > > the very pearl clutcher she describes.
> > > >
> > > > > I argue that mine is exactly the opposite motivation than
> > > > > the one you propose here. I wrote it for people who share
> > > > > my sense of humor, I am an entertainer.
> > > >
> > > > Why they react the way they do, Curtis, is that
> > > > they are not. They're stuck in the rut of being
> > > > "mean girls," and don't have either the creativity
> > > > or the intent to try to say anything funny and get
> > > > people to laugh.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the support.  The thing is that Raunchy has
> > > been very funny here quite often. That marks her out from
> > > the pack in my opinion.
> > 
> > I admit that she's *tried* to sound funny, but it
> > almost never worked for me. Too much trying, too
> > little actual funny.
> > 
> > > And she is not afraid to say is she likes something I
> > > have written, which occasionally happens to and I do
> > > appreciate that.
> > 
> > True that. Can you imagine Judy ever getting the
> > hate-burr out of her butt long enough to do that? :-)
> > 
> > > But this post had too much of the Church Lady vibe
> > > for my taste.
> > 
> > "Church Lady" is too high-vibe, cuz one gets the
> > feeling that the SNL Church Lady character actually
> > believed the shit she was saying. With Raunchy, no
> > way...it's all faux outrage, over something she
> > doesn't even feel any connection to, the little
> > baby Jeeezus myth.
> > 
> > Speaking of which, this was the billboard erected
> > in Times Square yesterday. It contains a sentiment
> > similar to the one you've been expressing:
> > 
> >   [american atheists christmas billboard]
> > http://i.huffpost.com/gen/898888/thumbs/o-AMERICAN-ATHEISTS-CHRISTMAS-BI\
> > LLBOARD-570.jpg?6
> > <http://i.huffpost.com/gen/898888/thumbs/o-AMERICAN-ATHEISTS-CHRISTMAS-B\
> > ILLBOARD-570.jpg?6>
> > 
> > I wouldn't characterize myself as an atheist, more of a
> > Who *needs* a God kinda person. Occam's Razor is your
> > friend -- if no God and no Savior are needed to explain
> > the workings of the world, then chances are they aren't
> > needed to explain those workings. The simplest explan-
> > ation (no God, no need for one) is most likely the best
> > explanation.
> > 
> > But some prefer fairy tales and myths. So be it. Just as
> > long as they don't try to sell them to me...
> >
>


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