"And then there's the personalities of the Rajas -- avatars of criminality right there -- I mean, who else but a bastard would say to their self: "Hey, I think I'll just buy a hunk of the world and rule it as an overlord!"
Speaking of certainty, ever actually spoken with a RAJA, face to face, over time? ...didn't think so...The one I have known for nearly twenty years is a very humble person, who has not tried to denigrate, manipulate or BS me, ever. Always honest and open - don't always agree with each other's ideas, though there is always mutual respect, and consideration. We haven't seen each other for a few years, but did have an interesting email exchange a couple months ago about immortality. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Certainty is the drug addiction of the ego. > > But but but, though I personally cannot bear witness to any big crimes of the > TMO, I can bear witness to having been told many many many stories about the > movement's chicanery -- told by those who were in a position to know. Too > many stories --at least some of them are/were true. > > Of course, let's point at the elephant under the rug: almost all the money > the movement has collected has been disappeared into India -- Girish et alia. > > Talk about your crimes! > > Then there's the thousands of ATR credits that were simply taken away with > ZERO fucks given by the movement leaders. > > How about the movement saying, "Oh by the way, your center, the one that all > your meditators locally raised the money to buy? SELL IT AND SEND THE MONEY > TO US." > > And then there's the personalities of the Rajas -- avatars of criminality > right there -- I mean, who else but a bastard would say to their self: "Hey, > I think I'll just buy a hunk of the world and rule it as an overlord!" > > Then there's the Course Office people -- the meanest fucks I ever met, and > they could do crime all day and night for their guru. > > Edg > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <feste37@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I know very little, but I am certain that many crimes have been committed > > > by the TMO. > > > > LOL!! If you know very little, how can you be certain of anything? > > > > > > > > > > It's a complete spectrum of silly to evil. > > > > > > On one end is: On my teacher training, some guy had a car accident and > > > they sneaked him out of Spain before the cops could get him. There were > > > many tales of cash being illegally moved to other countries. > > > > > > On the other end: Maharishi is said to told someone to drive fast and > > > not care about the speed limits. Maharishi gave everyone salt and > > > peanuts on the courses even though it was "wrong." > > > > > > Think about the mind-set of the MUM officials when that guy stabbed the > > > other guy. THAT'S HOW IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN -- cover the movement's ass and > > > save face AT ANY COST. > > > > > > They all just did what they wanted to do and figured out "words for it" > > > later. No morality. No righteousness. Just self-serving movement > > > besmirching decisions is all. > > > > > > It is all made-up on the spot. I'll bet Maharishi decided on the first > > > set of mantras in about 10 minutes flat. > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > there is NO lying cheating or stealing by the people in the movement > > > > you are slandering so carelessly, where is your proof? Likewise you > > > > defame Maharishi with absolutely no proof of any of the kind of > > > > wrongdoing that you parrot from others. The fault is in yourself. > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > the idea that everyone does it so don't fuss with particular people > > > > > who do it is the same kind of bullshit mentality that has led to the > > > > > utterly corrupt practices on Wall Street that has led to a world wide > > > > > economic crisis - where is your proof of Gandhi clan corruption other > > > > > than what you have heard and read? > > > > > > > > > > I read this comment by an English person commenting on the Mayan > > > > > flyer articles and I passed it on, much like you are passing on > > > > > information and judgement about the Gandhis - I don't give damn who > > > > > else lies, cheats and steals it doesn't make it alright for Maharishi > > > > > and his family to do it too, especially when they have been taking > > > > > money under false pretenses for decades and then can't even bring > > > > > themselves to handle the wealth legitimately > > > > > > > > > > Like I have said before, I believe in results and in manifest > > > > > behavior - the kind of behavior that these people manifest show a low > > > > > and selfish level of consciousness and the kind of mentality that > > > > > excuses it for the Marshy family while reviling others in India for > > > > > doing the same thing reminds me of the character of the Emperor > > > > > Commodus as depicted in the movie Gladiator. > > > > > > > > > > Show me the public information that shows without question that Maha > > > > > was an honest custodian of the funds he lived off of for nearly 60 > > > > > years. Back up what you say. > > > > > > > > > > I believe people like Mark Landau, Billy Clayton and Barry because > > > > > what they relate about Maharishi (who by the way does not deserve > > > > > that title) has the ring of truth AND when you put all the stories > > > > > together with public statements and actions (like the scorpion nation > > > > > episode) you see a consistent picture of an egotistical, childishly > > > > > egotistical, horny, greedy con artist who created a movement > > > > > dedicated not to the enlightenment of the world nor the betterment of > > > > > the individual but to making himself an icon and living a high and > > > > > luxurious life. > > > > > > > > > > You are flat out incorrect when you call these things "baseless > > > > > innuendo". Like I said, back up your words - show us the public > > > > > information showing that Maharishi was an honest custodian of the > > > > > funds he received for 57 years. > > > > > > > > > > All governments are corrupt - which means the people who run them are > > > > > corrupt and that is no excuse for personal or institutional > > > > > corruption and dishonesty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: "srijau@" <srijau@> > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 10:03 PM > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth for Marshy's Kin Folks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > when you are dealing with an utterly corrupt government like India's > > > > > has been for some time then it should come as no surprise that one > > > > > has to resort to things like smuggling gold into the country. The > > > > > Gandhi clan is the one that has been single mindedly engaged in > > > > > self-enrichment and the level of manipulation of all facets of > > > > > government to their ends and against anyone they imagine to not > > > > > support those ends is not something that I think you understand. If > > > > > you were an Indian you would especially given the recent revelations > > > > > of the miraculous enrichment of a certain person who married into > > > > > that family. Whatever you claim otherwise is actually based on a lot > > > > > of baseless innuendo and there is public information to the contrary > > > > > but you are the sort of person who repeats lies so as to give them > > > > > credibility. > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mjackson74" <mjackson74@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > A comment on the article about the 8,000 flyers in Mexico > > > > > > > > > > > > "I too am a former TM sidha. I gave thousands of pounds to the > > > > > > organisation over many years, but had no more to do with it after I > > > > > > got close to an Indian working for the organisation at a senior > > > > > > level. He confided in me that the top people close to Maharishi had > > > > > > asked him to smuggle gold during his trips from Europe and USA back > > > > > > to India!! When he refused they pressured him and made him break > > > > > > down, threatening he would have no future in the organisation if he > > > > > > didn't comply. Thus was back in the 90's when Maharishi was still > > > > > > alive. No wonder the movement in India is rich!" > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=366529 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
