Duv, I missed this one [2009]. This is one of those eye-witness posts that ought to go in the 'Indx'. Thanks for the context. -Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > Boo, > > Hey, I've got most of the story for you. > > I was running the Napa, Ca center when things got out of hand. This > jyotishi, Gandhi, was giving readings in the Sacramento area and was > very popular. Why? Because he was promoted as Maharishi's astrologer, > and that Ghandi had been given a mission-permission FROM MAHARISHI to > do this service. > > God-Conscious Judy Robinson was one of the marketers (working for > commission?) who attested to Gandhi's status, so it all seemed valid > since she was at the top of her marketing oomph then and commonly > thought to be a high profile and true devotee of Maharishi. And she > got some fees out of me doing her own junior version readings while we > waited for a spot in Gandhi's schedule to open up. She pushed > homeopathics, read your previous incarnations, sold beads, etc. > > Well, I went to Gandhi, paid my $60 (1973 dollars) and got his > reading. He was marketing gems, and also slabs of silver with yantras > on them, and other what-nots. The gems were "the nine vedic gems" -- > something like that. And they were mounted in various settings that > let the light go through them so's to get to the skin, natch. Costs > were about $125 for, say, a Christian cross with the gems mounted on > it, but the quality of the gems was for shit even to the naked eye, > but THEY'D BEEN BLESSED BY GANDHI donchaknow. > > And so, many of the initiators were making this guy into their "more > accessible guru," and it began to stink, because Gandhi was telling > folks (me for instance) that "if there was a problem, then, don't > bother Maharishi with it, pray to me instead." Yep, pray to him for > favors. > > That's when I backed off the guy. It was easy cuz I was sold out to > Maharishi, and, those fucking yantras were clunky, ugly, and a big > chore to haul around and keep on your person. Plus, living in the > center and driving a $200 car, where was I going to get the bucks to > keep seeing this guy? So, tapped out, distraught by the prayer > request, I was finished with the guy, but not-so for most others. > > The pot finally boiled over cuz new meditators were being shunted to > Gandi by the initiators in the Sacramento center, and I guess > Maharishi finally heard about it, and a "call from Maharishi to the > Sacramento Center" was arranged. > > On the phone call, (I was told about it only) at some point Maharishi > got fed up with whomever was defending Gandhi, and said, (something > like) "Those who would go with Gandhi can go to hell." Whatever else > he said, don't know, but the bottom line was "you're all fired if I > hear even another titch about this fucker who's STEALING MY MONEY." > > It was the first time for me to have ever heard Maharishi swear, so it > was a doozy for me. > > And, yeah, like SSRS, Andy Rymer, et al, Gandhi was a rustler grabbing > the livestock. > > Maharishi could have done us a solid when the rustlers hit FF and > started rebranding us. Should have called us in the dome and told us > to tar and feather these outlaws -- something like that. But, SSRS > never had "an alert" about him, nor did I ever hear any MUM official > naming him specifically as an outlander. Pete, can you tell us how > SSRS' group was politically handled in his early days in FF? > > I believe a few initiators left and became Gandhi's devotees, but > after the call, that was it, and until Maharishi introduced the > siddhis and the AV stuff, we initiators were all back to doing, get > this, 20 mins twice a day and SCI courses -- just like ordinary > meditators -- the shame of it, eh? Remember back then when even > initiators were not openly told to do more than 20 X 2? But every > initiator I knew as doing at least an hour twice a day and feeling > spiritually naughty. > > So, now I've got the gems etc. in a junk drawer somewhere -- pack rat > here. > > Considering that Gandhi had but little charisma for me personally, I > should have gone with him and dumped Maharishi. Why? Cuz I would have > gotten done with Gandhi in fairly short order methinks, whereas the > true master of the scam kept me pumping coinage into his pocket for > another 25 years. Think of the money, time and angst I could have > saved myself. > > And, then, when my faith-bubble in TM finally burst, on exiting the > TMO, what did I do? > > Yep, I went to about a dozen more seers, readers, jyotishis, healers, > psychics, and got all my alien implants removed, got my unlucky > numbers to avoid, got my suggested list of yaygas to have done, got a > Philippine doctor to take bloody raw clumps of meat out of my body, > got some minister from the Sanctuary of the Om to whisper sounds into > my ear, got some psychic nurse to scan my family for cancer, (she > missed: my son had cancer during the time of seeing her, but all she > did was tell us that we needed to eat red meat,) and then toss in your > assorted Reiki treatments, chiropractic treatments from FF's > enlightened docs who charged $45 a treatment instead of the going rate > of $20 everywhere else, and, oh, my face is too red to continue this > listing. > > Spent about $12,000 doing this "exit plan." That was my patterns -- > that had been honed and wired by me investing in the TMO -- refusing > to give up the identification I'd pumped into them, ya see? So many > mystic urges had to be separately extinguished by having each one used > until clarity dawned and the ruse was revealed. > > Am I free? Phihhh, that's the lesson, see? One is never free if one > is investing identification into ANYTHING. > > As long as you're splashing sentience everywhere like it was coming > out of a fire hose, well, any charlatan can figure a way under your > radar, and blammo, you're back to paying someone to make shit up about > you. > > It cost so much. I paid so much. > > The time, the money, the failed investments, the shame, the pain of > the pulling myself roots-and-all out of the FF community where I knew > a thousand people by name and face, the cost, the cost. > > Yet, who will take the least advice about this from me? > > That's the tell, ya see? We're all winging it and intuitively know > that there are no real experts about what goes on inside one's robot. > > Gotta laugh. Consider this: > > I'm sorta like the guy who's entered 30 spelling bees and gotten > tossed on the first word every time -- so who's going to come to me > for spelling advice even with such a deep involvement in spelling bees? > > Fuck, I'm not even an expert on how to be a loser. > > Anyone got a spare Xanax? > > Edg > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "boo_lives" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guyfawkes91" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote: > > > > > > > > On tonight's (MON Feb 2nd) Global Family Chat on the Maharishi > > > > Channel, they talked about the new light/gem therapy in Maharishi > > > > Ayurveda (the first line of Rig Veda says that agni/fire is the > > > > source of gems, gems are described in the Vedas as the "Radiance of > > > > God" -- Charaka Samhita says gems are second in treatment value > only > > > > to mantras, and gems are ahead of herbal treatments). They use some > > > > sort of light (frequency depends on the gem involved, amethyst, > > > > emerald, etc -- seven types of gems used all told) in a flashlight- > > > > type device which shines light through 12 gems set in gold. The > light > > > > is flashed on the palm of the hand (some of the photos in newspaper > > > > articles show people getting the light beam on the forehead even > > > > though the Raj people only talked about palm application), and > people > > > > are reporting good experiences (some expansion of consciousness, > > > > healing of injured area, etc) in the 300 treatments at the Raj to > > > > date. The light is supposed to act on the "light body" of the > > > > recipient, and although there are side effects like healing, it's > > > > basically designed to remove obstacles to enlightenment values more > > > > than just wearing gems, with the goal of letting celestial light > fill > > > > the body. In Switzerland all the HMOs pay for this therapy up to > 80% > > > > of the cost of treatment. Ayurveda recipes including powdered gems > > > > are legal in Germany, but not yet legal in the USA. > > > > > > > > "There is no inside or outside. The same light inside, the same > light > > > > outside." > > > > > > > Fucking hell it'll be Reiki healing next. Whenever you think the TMO > > > has hit rock bottom you hear knocking from underneath the floor. > > > > > Back in the late 70s MMY heard about some initiators who were into > > healing via gems, in CA I think, George Ellis of the prison project > > had some role in it I remember, and MMY called them on the phone and > > said something to the effect that their gems healing would lead them > > to hell. His pt, which was the main pt of the tmo then, was that > > simple meditation was all you needed and all you should do. > > >
