Yeah, I have heard stuff like that before. I respect that not everyone feels like talking about it, from a personal point of view. On the other hand, if I want to, why not?
I agree that the caution expressed by a lot of Gurus, is a good thing to have in place, though not as an absolute law. Also, as you always do, I stress enlightenment as an always growing state, once enlightenment is established. Life doesn't ever stop, and neither does enlightenment. It multiplies rapidly actually, because there is neither fear or uncertainty, in exploring anything. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > Nope, just passing on what a lot of gurus say. > > On 02/06/2013 11:46 AM, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > "One should never claim enlightenment but it is perfectly > > okay to say one is experiencing some enlightenment." > > > > Huh?! Who the fuck made you King? You are proclaiming what a person can, > > and cannot say, about enlightenment?? You are a reasonable person and movie > > buff, but, "We don't neeeed no steen-keeng Badges!" :-) > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >> On 02/06/2013 06:26 AM, navashok wrote: > >>> Recently a friend alerted me that an Advaita teacher he knows, Cesar > >>> Teruel, 'renounced' his enlightenment, making a 'Confession' at his > >>> facebook page https://www.facebook.com/teruelcesar He is on Batgap too > >>> http://batgap.com/cesar-teruel/ > >>> > >>> The confession is only recent. To me it seems that the guy has strong > >>> enlightenment experiences, and actually uncovers deeper layers of > >>> conditioning. It has nothing to do with forcefully de-enlightening > >>> oneself. To me this guy seems to be very honest and straightforward, so > >>> his 'confession' is rather a plus than a minus.. > >>> > >>> > >> Often people who "renounce" their enlightenment weren't enlightened to > >> begin with. One should never claim enlightenment but it is perfectly > >> okay to say one is experiencing some enlightenment. It is an ongrowing > >> experience. And of course obsessing over enlightenment is an impediment > >> to developing it. > >> > > >
