--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > It seems most everyone here in Fairfield has developed a graph somewhat like > this that they work off of from their own experience in sorting [reconciling] > the [moral] spiritual dissonance they've seen. > >
That, how they've reconciled their conscience, in itself would make an interesting survey. I'm telling ya, there is a PhD thesis in this here for someone. > > It is relatively helpful in looking at this holy subject to graph > > comparatively the Saintly or Holy ones in a Distribution by Graphing their > > Saintly Distribution as data pairs on a Cartesian x-y axis. > > > > Graphing, > > > > For instance take: > > 1 Spiritual Transformative Impact On the Vertical axis. > > 2 The type of the holy person relatively on the horizontal axis. > > > > 1 Vertical: > > > > Holy > > > > Moral > > > > [Transforming Impact] > > > > Immoral > > > > Narcissistic > > > > 2 Horizontal: Avatar-Saintly, Satguru, guru, spiritual teacher, leader, > > lecturer, author,,, reformer, etc... > > > > > > Then simply consider someone and place them in the graph. > > > > A nice spiritually inclined academic like Phil Goldberg might be somewhere > > around the moral-author turning to moral-lecturer on the graph. Mother > > Meera, Holy Avatar-Saintly. Likewise Ammachi relatively. Adyashanti > > somewhere around Moral-spiritual teacher. Mother Teresa, Holy-Saintly > > Moral-spiritual teacher. Joe Stalin or Chairman Mao, Narcissistic-leaders > > low down and over towards the right on the graph. It's all relative and > > some people move on the graph in time. It's a flexible tool © to use to > > see the holy or less so this way. The Maharaja? Vivekanda? Different > > Popes? Have fun. > > -Buck > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > great guy but for those easily confused,its not Maharishi > > > > > Mahesh Yogi nor Maharaja Adhiraja Rajaram! > > > > > > > > Om, let's see: guru spiritual teachers, authors, lecturers; > > > > but saints? How do YOU see, Maharaj? A spiritual teacher? > > > > A folk with a transformative field effect [darshan]? Saintly? > > > > Holy? Graceful? A Saint? Sat Guru? Doing spiritual work as > > > > an empathetic and humanitarian in a nature of spiritual > > > > character on earth? > > > > > > > > ie., Wiki: Satguru (Sanskrit: > > > > सदगुरू) does not merely mean > > > > true guru. The term is distinguished from other forms of > > > > gurus, such as musical instructors, scriptural teachers, > > > > parents, and so on. The satguru is a title given specifically > > > > only to an enlightened rishi/sant whose life's purpose is to > > > > guide...the summation of which is the realization of > > > > the Self through realization of God [the Unified Field], who > > > > is omnipresent. A Satguru has some special characteristics > > > > that are not found in any other types of Spiritual Guru." > > > > > > "People use the word 'guru' because 'charlatan' is so hard > > > to spell." -- Peter Drucker > > > >
