> > Why is it good for you to know my opinion on this?
> >
TB:
> What on earth gave you the impression that I was 
> interested in your opinion on any of this? I was
> merely making a statement about *my* opinion. To
> believe that I was inviting you into a confront-
> ation over my opinion merely puts you in the same
> category as Ann and Robin and Judy. 
>
Oh, so now it's all about Ann and Robin and Judy.
  
> > ________________________________
> >  From: turquoiseb <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Over these 9 months I've been on FFL I realize that what 
> > > has always been the demarcation line for me, but I wasn't 
> > > aware of it, is the use of physical violence or the threat 
> > > of physical violence. For example, the final straw for me 
> > > in ref to Catholic Church was learning about the 
> > > Inquisition when I was a freshman at the Univ of Maryland 
> > > and sat in on my boyfriend's World History class. Physical 
> > > violence or the threat of it is where I draw the line in 
> > > any relationship whether it be with an individual or with 
> > > a group. That would include some individual or group forcing 
> > > me to commit suicide. All else is an organization consisting 
> > > of flawed individuals being a flawed and sometimes silly 
> > > part of this flawed but beautiful world. 
> > 
> > I see. So fraud, money laundering, the seduction of 
> > students by a supposedly trusted teacher, lying, mis-
> > representation to the public *and* to the students,
> > gross misappropriation of funds, forcing students to
> > live a lifestyle counter to their wishes, slavery
> > (what else can you call the pundits), etc. are all
> > just FINE with you, so long as it doesn't come to
> > physical violence. 
> > 
> > Good to know.
> > 
> > > ________________________________
> > >  From: Rick Archer 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:30 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The key to overcoming cult thinking
> > > 
> > > From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
> > > On Behalf Of turquoiseb
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:14 AM
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The key to overcoming cult thinking
> > >  
> > >   
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote:
> > > >> 
> > > > I would suggest that it might also be important to be able 
> > > > to say "I was part of a cult, but I actually benefitted 
> > > > from it in many ways, and while some might be wise to leave 
> > > > it or 'take what they need and leave the rest', others are 
> > > > benefitting from it even now, despite its cult-like aspects."
> > > 
> > > I have no problem with this. My point is about the inability
> > > to say the C-word, or admit that this is what they were really
> > > part of. 
> > > 
> > > That, to me, indicates a subtle intention to remain under the
> > > delusion that they could "never be deceived," and that they
> > > are "too smart to be taken in by a cult." Anyone who believes
> > > that is still in one. 
> > > If anyone can look at the robes and crowns, weight in gold, tallest 
> > > buildings in the world, expensive tiny singing jars of rancid honey, and 
> > > all the rest, and say it’s not a cult, then I’d like to 
> > > know what they would consider a cult. Do we have to have mass suicides 
> > > before we can say we’ve crossed that line?
> > >
> >
>


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