--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > > But I think you've answered my original question:
> > > > you think he failed (in my terms) whether or not TM,
> > > > properly administered, could save the world (in other
> > > > words, you don't know whether TM could save the world).
> > > 
> > > You think incorrectly, if you think that's what
> > > I said.  I believe he failed at living his life
> > > well.  Whether the world could be "saved" or not
> > > is irrelevant.  The only thing that is important
> > > IMO is, if you have announced "saving the world"
> > > publicly as your goal, you should act as if you 
> > > believed it, and put your best effort into 
> > > achieving it.  I remain unconvinced that Maharishi 
> > > did either after about 1975.
> > 
> > OK, so you *didn't* answer my original question.
> 
> It was a "Have you stopped beating your wife?"
> question.  You gave only two options, neither
> of which I agree with.  I could only answer by
> proposing more options.
> 
> > But what is the issue of whether the world could be
> > saved irrelevant *to*, in your view?
> 
> The goal -- whatever it is -- is irrelevant to
> how one creates or fails to create right means
> to achieve it.  The achievement or non-achieve-
> ment of the goal is irrelevant, only how well
> one lives one's life in the pursuit of it.
> 
> IMO, of course.

You have control over action alone, never over it's fruits.
                           paraphase of Bhagavad Gita




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