--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@ wrote: > > > snip> > > > Judy > > > > > > FWIW Curtis, this was my understanding when I first read > > > > > your response of "...from the outset" as being the *current* > > > > > exchange...not going back to the beginning. It surprises me > > > > > that Robin, in his response, doesn't seem to understand this, > > > > > but at least he's consistent...or maybe he's being ironic > > > > > (disingenuous smiley face). > > > > > > FWIW, when I read Curtis's response, I also thought he meant > > > going back to the beginning (this was before I'd read Robin's > > > reply saying the same thing). > > > > on·set > > noun > > 1. a beginning or start: the onset of winter. > > 2. an assault or attack: an onset of the enemy. > > > > please continue...
...as in read other comments that I've highlighted below. > That was really funny. Not to mention the absurdity of her making a case for what my actual meaning was! Because she knows and I am being deceptive in that special way that only she and Robin can see. > > I have a feeling that I am seeing where some of my special students are going to end up. > > > > [snip] > > > > > My experience of you, Curtis, has been that you are > > > consistently dishonest. You're usually quite subtle about > > > it, such that only the person you're being dishonest *with* > > > is likely to be able to spot it. > > > > > > "From the outset" is a very peculiar way to refer to the > > > most recent in a long series of exchanges. The most obvious > > > understanding would be that you meant from the outset of > > > the series. The idea that "From the outset" meant the most > > > recent seems to me to be the twisted one. > > > > > > I think if you had meant the most recent one you would > > > have indicated this, e.g., "From the outset of your most > > > recent exchange with Share..." > > > > > > That you claim to be unable to understand how anyone could > > > have assumed you did not mean the most recent exchange says > > > to me that you are being disingenuous, at the very least > > > about how "obvious" it was that you did mean the most recent. > > > It was not at all obvious, it was ambiguous. And you being a > > > wordsmith of sorts should have been able to easily recognize > > > the potential for misunderstanding. > > > > > > If that's what it was. I think you are actually trying to > > > backpedal from a mistake. > > > > > > You were not here, after all, when Robin and Share began > > > their conversations, which were indeed extremely friendly. > > > > > > You returned to FFL after a longish absence several weeks > > > later, just in time to see Share turn on Robin based on > > > her misunderstanding of something he had said to her. > > > > > > You leaped into their conflict without knowing how Share > > > had misrepresented the situation, having seen an > > > opportunity to attack Robin by supporting Share. You > > > claimed he had been deliberately setting her up for a > > > confrontation, an idea she eagerly picked up on. It made > > > an appearance later on in her unconscionable claim that > > > she had been "psychologically raped" by Robin. > > > > > > I believe that's what you were remembering, and why you > > > assumed Robin's "mission" with Share had never been > > > friendly. > > > > > > That conflict, not incidentally, hardly exemplified the > > > "interactions with the intention to understand" you go > > > on here to tout, on either Share's part or your own. Your > > > present insistence on the "obviousness" of your meaning > > > for "From the outset..." is another example of the lack > > > of intention to understand on your part. > > > > > > And then there's the interesting fact of the rest of that > > > paragraph: > > > > > > "From the outset your mission with Share has been unfriendly > > > and she has done a pretty good job of handling herself > > > considering that you are just letting her have it with both > > > barrels about herself, uninvited. It reminds me of our > > > conversations which followed the same arc, although I at > > > lest got some flowers and chocolates at the door before the > > > assault." > > > > > > "Flowers and chocolates at the door" does not refer to your > > > current exchange with Robin. What you were reminded of by > > > Robin's exchanges with Share was your early conversations > > > with him. One more reason to suspect that by "From the > > > outset" you meant from his early exchanges with her--except > > > that you weren't aware of the "flowers and chocolates" she > > > had received from him, hence your phrase "at le[a]st." > > > > > > Your walkback here is only marginally plausible. You should, > > > as Robin says, have just copped to making a mistake. That > > > would have been no big deal. > > http://youtu.be/3_I8RCUpe-c (as in 5, 18, and/or 20 below) > > > > verb (used with object) > > 1. to combine, as two or more strands or threads, by winding together; intertwine. > > 2. to form by or as if by winding strands together: Several fibers were used to twist the rope. > > 3. to entwine (one thing) with another; interlace (something) with something else; interweave; plait. > > 4. to wind or coil (something) about something else; encircle; entwine; wreathe. > > 5. to alter in shape, as by turning the ends in opposite directions, so that parts previously in the same straight line and plane are located in a spiral curve: The sculptor twisted the form into an arabesque. He twisted his body around to look behind him. > > > > verb (used without object) > > 16. to be or become intertwined. > > 17. to wind or twine about something. > > 18. to writhe or squirm. > > 19. to take a spiral form or course; wind, curve, or bend. > > 20. to turn or rotate, as on an axis; revolve, as about something; spin. > > > > please continue... > > > Finally, in Robin's current exchange with Share, his > > > remarks about her avoidance of reality were (of course!) > > > "uninvited"--but they were, as you know, by no means > > > *unprovoked*. > > > > > > Speaking of inadvertent irony: > > > > > > > But I am seeing it all as more formulaic than genuine > > > > interaction. Judy runs the exact same DLL program. It > > > > is the exact opposite of interactions with the intention > > > > to understand. > > > > > > Robin has your modus operandi nailed, Curtis. When conflict > > > is involved, your intention--your formula--is to *prevent* > > > "genuine interaction" and proclaim CurtisTruth by fiat. > > Brown tears leaving streaks, > > She uses toilet paper > > in lieu of tissue. > > > > (deep bow to thunderous applause from appreciative audience) > >
