Meditation shall set you free,

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> Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir;  I wish to submit in to the record for 
> discussion a previous testimony given by FFL resident scholar and expert of 
> Sanskrit transliteration, our distinguished elder meditating member and 
> linguist from Finland.  
> Mr. Moderator, please include for our larger consideration the record of the 
> testimony given in FFL post number 302944 and its related replies on the 
> topic of the correct translation of the Sanskrit of the Saha Nav hymn in to 
> English.  For our current review of the resolution please admit in to the 
> record this link to the post by Cardemaister fra Finland about the more 
> proper translation of the TM Saha Nav hymn:                
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302944  
> Most Respectfully,
> -Buck
> 
> > 
> > FFL,  A Question for the forum: Are there any witnesses present as to the 
> > origin of the TM version of the Saha Nav hymn?  When was the Saha Nav hymn 
> > first transliterated the way the TM movement uses it?  Lurkers who are 
> > without their own exclusive membership with posting privileges are always 
> > free to contact and send their testimony to the FFL owner listed at the 
> > home page for FFL as a way of being included in FFL. 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir, A Point of order; there seems to be a 
> > > discrepancy between the proper or correct translation of the Saha Nav 
> > > hymn on the one hand and the TM movement's version which was created.  We 
> > > should need expert witness as to reconcile the evident difference to the 
> > > proper or correct translation of the Saha Nav hymn and the origin of the 
> > > TM version used by the TM movement for their purposes.  Could witnesses 
> > > come forward to testify as to the facts on the discrepancy?
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > Dear FFL, Mr. Moderator Sir; Let us proceed now directly to the 
> > > > discussion of the Saha Nav resolution, The Fairfieldlife Resolution of 
> > > > Mutual Respect, otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav Resolution.
> > > > -Buck
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3 <WLeed3@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Amen to this buck
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dear FFL,
> > > > > Mr. Moderator Sir; I take this "Amen" of the distinguished elder 
> > > > > meditator from Upstate of the Great State of New York as a second to 
> > > > > the motion on the Fairfieldlife Resolution of Mutual Respect 
> > > > > otherwise known as the FFL Saha Nav Resolution.
> > > > -Buck   
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > In a message dated 04/26/13 16:15:50 Eastern Daylight Time, Buck 
> > > > > > writes:
> > > > > > FFL Moderators, List Owner, Friends; as a motion for consideration, 
> > > > > > I move we consider the adoption of the more correct translation of 
> > > > > > the Saha Nav hymn as: 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The Fairfieldlife (FFL) Resolution of Mutual Respect: 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Om ! May the Unified Field protect us both together; 
> > > > > > May It nourish us both together; 
> > > > > > May we work conjointly with great energy, 
> > > > > > May our study be vigorous and effective; 
> > > > > > May we not mutually dispute or may we not hate any. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -Buck 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Friends, as a means to have constructive engagement with these 
> > > > > > > nay-bobs of anti-meditation negativity here, 
> > > > > > > In process first we need to enact a FFL resolution of mutual 
> > > > > > > respect 
> > > > > > > to have something in all our favor to rally around to enforce 
> > > > > > > against the anti-meditators here.  As a motion of consideration I 
> > > > > > > hereby move the adoption of the 
> > > > > > > The FFL Saha Nav Resolution. 
> > > > > > > For top banner publication across the FFL homepage. 
> > > > > > > -Buck 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I feel it is quite time to invoke emergency measures here to 
> > > > > > > > protect the integrity of FFL as a public and spiritual forum.  
> > > > > > > > Though I do not look for this position, but as it is now 
> > > > > > > > brought to us and if however brought and placed by a loyal 
> > > > > > > > Unified Field of FFL into a position of authority to wrought 
> > > > > > > > out the necessary positive change to FFL security I should 
> > > > > > > > willingly step forward and volunteer if drafted by the 
> > > > > > > > community to serve as a channel to help with this great task.  
> > > > > > > > I look to all your support with this great endeavor to make FFL 
> > > > > > > > a spiritually safe place once again.   
> > > > > > > > -Buck 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Yes, considering TM as being under a general blog internet 
> > > > > > > > > attack here and its ongoing specious forms of persistent FFL 
> > > > > > > > > anti-meditation bush-whacking terrorism; not withstanding, 
> > > > > > > > > there are clearly some anti-meditation radicals trying to 
> > > > > > > > > live here among us who would blow up and derail passenger 
> > > > > > > > > trains of innocents crossing over river bridges if they 
> > > > > > > > > could.  Stinking anti-meditation terrorists.  It is time we 
> > > > > > > > > do some things more to protect our spiritual securities 
> > > > > > > > > ourselves for all we love, our families, our friends and our 
> > > > > > > > > community.  It is time. 
> > > > > > > > > -Buck 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > (Fairfield, Iowa) Interviews with elderly meditators who 
> > > > > > > > > > > reportedly knew the anti-meditation suspects at earlier 
> > > > > > > > > > > times, an elder meditator remarks, 
> > > > > > > > > > > "Anti-meditation is the dark religion and the former 
> > > > > > > > > > > meditators became religiously anti-meditative". 
> > > > > > > > > > > -0--- 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Considering now that both the modern science and people's 
> > > > > > > > > > direct deeper spiritual experience are confirming first 
> > > > > > > > > > hand ancient and spiritual scriptures showing just how 
> > > > > > > > > > spiritually imperative transcending meditation practices 
> > > > > > > > > > are to all of humankind I feel it is important that we be 
> > > > > > > > > > more proactive in protecting ourselves from the radicalism 
> > > > > > > > > > of the anti-meditators here. 
> > > > > > > > > > -Buck 
> > > > > > > > > >     
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Anartaxius" <anartaxius@> wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > About The FFL anti-meditation terrorism, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Buck, nobody on FFL is stopping anyone on this forum 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > from meditation who wants to meditate. There are 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > those that feel that prospective meditators would be 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > better served by having a larger range of facts (and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > in some cases fantasies) to chose from when making a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > decision. There are some who do not understand what 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > meditation can do, and some who overstate what 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > meditation can do. It is a tool for a particular 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > task. The task is to experience reality unvarnished 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > as is possible. As reality is all there is, this 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > would seem to be a very peculiar task, trying to find 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > what is in fact the only thing that is. Because most 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > have a bee in their bonnet, there is a distractive 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > element in our lives that meditation is an aid for 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ameliorating. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > What a slick specious bunch of sophistry. By science 
> > > > > > > > > > > > and virtue of people's experience it is conclusive that 
> > > > > > > > > > > > all our public policy should be that people come to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > meditation for all our welfare. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Buck   
> > > > > > > > > > > >   
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (FAIRFIELD)-- The former meditators come from 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > broken families of meditation, ... 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Well the TMO and Fairfield are in certain ways broken 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > communities now. As people mature they find the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > simplistic ideal society model of life slightly 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > inaccurate when applied to living. In their awareness 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > everything may be ideal society, but the average joe 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > on the street would find the concept as applied to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > say the city of Fairfield, IA to be appallingly short 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of the mark, if all details be made known. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and the remaining elder meditator speaking 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > resplendent in meditative light and spiritual triumph 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > having survived many years of organizational tumult 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > along the way... 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds as if this guy is up on a pedestal, a top down 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > manager, who probably has no idea what the average 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > meditator is going through. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ...said "..these former meditators brought shame to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the meditating family". The  former meditators were 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > last seen meditating with the group in December 2005 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and 1978 respectively. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Shame is the emotion experienced by an ego with low 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > self-esteem; if this elder is experiencing this, or 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > attempting to get others to experience life this way, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > he/she has no business being an elder, or being any 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > kind of an instructor for the benefit of life. The 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > elder would serve best by guiding people strong, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > independent, and wise 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "You put a shame on our entire family -- the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > meditating family -- and you put a shame on the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > entire meditating community," The community 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > meditation Elder said. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > As I said, this elder is clueless, trying to berate 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > people instead of lifting them up. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > When asked what provoked the anti-meditation 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > suspects, the elder meditator stated: "Being 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > losers, hatred to those who were able to settle 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > themselves -- these are the only reasons I can 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > imagine"." 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Weak imagination too. Whoever this elder is, the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > elder should be sacked. 
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