--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/12/05 11:03 PM, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> It's interesting. the dark side of these people who > >>> try to pass themselves > >>> off as the latest guru. That tendency (to declare > >>> oneself a teacher or guru > >>> or "enlightened") I tend to associate with nothing > >>> more than a refined and > >>> clever ego. I remember how disappointed I was when I > >>> found out that Charlie > >>> Lutes had loved to frequent strip clubs. > >> > >> This opens a question for inquiry, and I apply this to > >> myself, too. Why would such behavior on Charlie's part > >> bother us so much? He liked to look at naked women. > >> Okay.... I have known other people in the past that I > >> respect and admire that did the same thing from time > >> to time. Why is it such a problem? Hmmmm. > > > > Anyone who likes strip clubs does NOT like women. > > I don't know that "like" would be the operative word... > maybe "respect". Like I said, it's all about control and > domination and subjugation of women--at > least (IMO) it is an overriding theme.
Vaj, I like you, but I have to wonder whether you have actually ever *been* to a strip club. Yes, it's sad that our society is so sexually biased that one of the only options women who don't want to work for low pay have open to them is stripping. But the *dynamic* in a strip club is exaclty the *opposite* of what you describe. *Any* "seer" with half an ounce of discrimination would be able to discern that immediately. The people being controlled and dominated and subjugated are the *men* around the stage. And *every* woman who works at one of these clubs knows it. Some actually get off on the level of control they have over the customers, playing with it. Sit and *talk* with some of these women sometime. It might open your eyes to the possibility that this scene is not nearly as black-and-white as you think it is. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
